Gay Marriage

[delldude]

[background=rgb(255, 255, 255)]The Supreme Court will decide Friday whether it's going to take up a key gay marriage cases.
But many people don't realize the high court already kind of ruled against gay marriage in 1972.
That year, the nation's highest court briefly weighed in on a Minnesota Supreme Court ruling in Baker v. Nelson that same-sex unions were not a fundamental right under the federal Constitution.

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[background=rgb(255, 255, 255)]"The institution of marriage as between a man and a woman, uniquely involving the procreation of children within a family, is as old as the book of Genesis," the opinion says.[/background]​

 

[KCFlyer]

You know, there was this president who once said "Government is not the solution to a problelm....government IS the problem". Why do conservatives want less government, unless it involves bodies? Gay marriage and abortion.....why there oughta be a law...

And back around those days they also thought that marriage was not only between a man and a woman, but it was between a man and a woman OF THE SAME RACE.

 

[RDU Jetblast]

Hence the rift between american catholics and the vatican which once insisted the world is flat and the sun revlves around it.

SOCUS and repubs should read Matthew 7:1 and stay out of peoples personal lives

 

[RDU Jetblast]

I meant scotus

 

[Ms Tree]

I have yet to hear someone provide a legal argument on why people should be denied equal rights. Invariably the argument relies in some way on religious beliefs.

 

[777 fixer]

[background=rgb(255, 255, 255)]"The institution of marriage as between a man and a woman, uniquely involving the procreation of children within a family, is as old as the book of Genesis," the opinion says.[/background]​

But you and NHBB would make such a cute couple. 😉

 

[delldude]

But you and NHBB would make such a cute couple. 😉

I couldn't work in a critical mass ReLaTiOnShIp VeRy LoNg.

 

[NewHampshire Black Bears]

"OH" !,.......dell and fixer, you are SUCH BRUTES !

For us DEMS, we ..P R A Y.. that the REPUGS on the SCOTUS rule against it, forcing Most of the REPUGS in congress ....who....currently reside in 'subterranean' quarters, to 'Keep F'n DIGGING' !!!

 

[southwind]

How 'bout we call the gettin' together of a man and woman "Marriage" and the gettin' together of the same sex "Civil-Union" !
While I'm sure some of the same sex "Civil Unions" involve love, imo, a lot of it has to do with the benefits derived from that "Civil Union" whether they be tax breaks, insurance or even flight benies !

 

[NewHampshire Black Bears]

How 'bout we call the gettin' together of a man and woman "Marriage" and the gettin' together of the same sex "Civil-Union" !
While I'm sure some of the same sex "Civil Unions" involve love, imo, a lot of it has to do with the benefits derived from that "Civil Union" whether they be tax breaks, insurance or even flight benies !

W T F...would YOU Know about copulation between a Man and Woman ???????????????????????

 

[Ms Tree]

How 'bout we call the gettin' together of a man and woman "Marriage" and the gettin' together of the same sex "Civil-Union" !
While I'm sure some of the same sex "Civil Unions" involve love, imo, a lot of it has to do with the benefits derived from that "Civil Union" whether they be tax breaks, insurance or even flight benies !

If that is fly at all, the same rights must apply to both. Adoption, surviorship, property, insurance... everything.

Even if that comes to pass there is still the issue of separate but equal. That was already struck down.

If you can provide a legal argument that shows why two people should not be allowed to marry have at it. I have yet to hear one. Lots of religious ones but no legal one.

Where exactly did you find your information regarding the reason for gay marriage?

 

[Dog Wonder]

While I'm sure some of the same sex "Civil Unions" involve love, imo, a lot of it has to do with the benefits derived from that "Civil Union" whether they be tax breaks, insurance or even flight benies !

That would make them like some male-female relationships.

 

[yoyodyne]

W T F...would YOU Know about copulation between a Man and Woman ???????????????????????

 

[SparrowHawk]

Let's look at this strictly ffrom a human rights versus the COTUS point of view.

The COTUS is based upon Natural law in that you you have certain rights, The DOI says those rights come from our "Creator". Not Jesus, Confucious, Mohammed, L Ron Hubbard or the anyone else. The rights naturally occur much as the wind blows rights are there. We've had them all along. Plato spoke of them, we built a nation upon these concepts. So what are these rights?

The Right to your Property
The Right to Self Defense
You Right to life
The Right to your Liberty

In this case Liberty is defined as the right to live as you choose. The Amish and a host of religious sects live as the choose as the COTUS guarantees their rights. People with no religion live as they choose.

Gays live as they choose with the notable exception of being allowed to marry. This raises many questions regarding equality. For me I don't find the verses in Matthew relevent. Christians believe what they believe, it's their right to do so. HOWEVER, it is not their right to impose their will on ANY sovereign citizen of the United States for any reason.

As a Christian, I'm frankly offended by the comments of some of the brethren. I was always taught to "Hate the sin & Love the sinner" as in the eyes of God we are all sinners and no one sin is better or worse than another. Now in the context of a country that values the rights of the individual over the rights of the state, the question isn't IMO any of the governments business.

 

[signals]

I have yet to hear someone provide a legal argument on why people should be denied equal rights. Invariably the argument relies in some way on religious beliefs.

Nii-ce twist. Using EQUAL rights as a way to say that perversion should trump religion.

I don't oppose gay marriage on the government level, but I laugh at those who stoop to saying that these EQUAL rights are denied because it's what Sunday school taught us. Practice what you preach, separate church and state. In my beliefs, gay is wrong, BUT the government has a right to secure equality in the secular level as it deems to its profit. I can say that Caesar gets what's Caesar's. I have no problem with that. I can't help that in the USA Christians are retarded and render unto Caesar's what is God's, but you sinking to their low makes you no better!