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700 that's because we pay for all the dead beats and illegals that use our hospitals for free. Obamacare only organizes the abuse, actually incongruous it more. Judge Roberts classified it a tax, Joe the plummer calls it wealth redistribution. I'll put you down in the "we're getting screwed" category. I look for corporations to start dumping employees into it next. Then you're really screwed!  
 
For everybody's info, I spoke to a Fidelity retirement income planner the other day. He said for me to plan on my healthcare cost going up 7% per year from age 65 until death. He also reluctantly pointed out the more I have in my 401K the more I pay later for healthcare under Obamacare. Those that don't save and have very little for retirement get huge tax subsidies and those that plan ahead and save for a secure retirement income don't get them. Guess you and I get to pay for dead beats even in our golden years. America encourages laziness and the Dem's call the lazy their base? I always thought they were stupid, but maybe I'm the dump one? 
 
Obama's definition of the rich; anyone who works and "earns" a paycheck.
 
700UW said:
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If you think Obamascare is going to lower those costs, you are in for a surprise.
 
Kev3188 said:
Why run when you can stay and work to make our nation a better place to live?
Sorry but, BaRack-O-Care is not making our nation a better place to live, though it does try to make the nation more dependant on government!
Kinda like having a union....isn't it!
 
southwind said:
Sorry but, BaRack-O-Care is not making our nation a better place to live...
I didn't say it would. What's "Barack-O-care," anyway?

OTOH, fixing our (very broken) healthcare system would... Do you not agree?
 
Agree, problem is BaRack-O-Care is not a solution, just a means to rule the masses !
 
southwind said:
My advice? Move to Germany, Canada or Switzerland!
Next!
Pretty compelling info, seems like a single payer system is he deal.

Works pretty good for the seniors in America today.
 
usa1 said:
700 that's because we pay for all the dead beats and illegals that use our hospitals for free. Obamacare only organizes the abuse, actually incongruous it more. Judge Roberts classified it a tax, Joe the plummer calls it wealth redistribution. I'll put you down in the "we're getting screwed" category. I look for corporations to start dumping employees into it next. Then you're really screwed!  
 
For everybody's info, I spoke to a Fidelity retirement income planner the other day. He said for me to plan on my healthcare cost going up 7% per year from age 65 until death. He also reluctantly pointed out the more I have in my 401K the more I pay later for healthcare under Obamacare. Those that don't save and have very little for retirement get huge tax subsidies and those that plan ahead and save for a secure retirement income don't get them. Guess you and I get to pay for dead beats even in our golden years. America encourages laziness and the Dem's call the lazy their base? I always thought they were stupid, but maybe I'm the dump one? 
 
Obama's definition of the rich; anyone who works and "earns" a paycheck.
 
I agree.
 
Everyone pays the price for liberal stupidity.
 
If anyone has lived in life, they know stupid is not politically aligned.

Look to Toronto for the most recent example.
 
Glenn Quagmire said:
If anyone has lived in life, they know stupid is not politically aligned.

Look to Toronto for the most recent example.
 
 
You should man up and admit those who were sold the hope and change mantra are now realizing they are in the same boat as the voters in Toronto.
 
Without a doubt we been had bigger, better and forever.....At least the Toronto Mayor got the balls to admit to his short comings.......
 
700UW said:
You lack a few statistics. Who gives better care and who has the best survival rate? You also lack the knowledge of the true reality. For example, even though a 1 day hospital stay may be more expensive in the US, I can say from experience that the 1 day becomes a week to 10 days in Europe for even a  minor problem 😛
 

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