Health Care

[MCI transplant]

I support Cruz.
 
There is NO WAY I would vote for Hillary. I will not support liberal slime. Think how many times Hillary has flip flopped just this year. It was a video that got John Christopher Stevens killed right Hillary? Liar.
 
The fact she looked the other way while her husband had numerous affairs shows me she has a serious lack of self worth and character, and this is someone that the libtards paint as a champion of women's rights. What a joke.
 
I am hoping once Obama's reign ends (I say reign because he acts like a dictator) the Republicans will put an end to this atrocity called Obamacare.
 
Did anyone notice when Obamacare started falling apart the libtard media started referring to it as the ACA. 
 
 
 
To those of you who think Bill Clinton was such a good president maybe you should consider the things he has done to cause our current financial meltdown.
 
Rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act (Forcing banks to loan to people who had no realistic ability to pay the loan back)
Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act (cleared the way for "Too Big To Fail")
Commodity Futures Modernization Act (Credit Default Swaps)

Hillary scares me worse than Obama. Her track record goes all the way back to shady deals, with her husband, in Arkansas, to one of the biggest cover ups in American history, TWA Flt. 800, prior to Clinton's re-election campaign, to the cover up over Benghazi!!

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Explain how you think the ACA/Obamacare is going to be ended. Do you really think that 33 million people (a number I heard in a story yesterday) will stand for having their health care insurance taken away? Those are the ones with pre-existing conditions and people who are now eligible for medicare.

Also all the dependents under 26 years old would lose coverage from their parents.

And you cannot say that you would keep this part of the plan while getting rid of the part that makes healthy people buy comprehensive plans. Insurance only works with large numbers of healthy people in the pool.

So tell me how (politically) this can be done.

From an 2012 HHS Study:

"According to a new analysis by the Department of Health and Human Services, 50 to 129 million (19 to 50 percent of) non-elderly Americans have some type of pre-existing health condition. Up to one in five non-elderly Americans with a pre-existing condition 25 million individuals is uninsured. Under the Affordable Care Act, starting in 2014, these Americans cannot be denied coverage...

"As many as 82 million Americans with employer-based coverage have a pre-existing condition, ranging from life-threatening illnesses like cancer to chronic conditions like diabetes, asthma, or heart disease. Without the Affordable Care Act, such conditions limit the ability to obtain affordable health insurance if they become self-employed, take a job with a company that does not offer coverage, or experience a change in life circumstance, such as divorce, retirement, or moving to a different state. Older Americans between ages 55 and 64 are at particular risk: 48 to 86 percent of people in that age bracket have some type of pre-existing condition. And 15 to 30 percent of people in perfectly good health today are likely to develop a pre-existing condition over the next eight years, severely limiting their choices without the protections of the Affordable Care Act...

...The new report says that, of those Americans who are uninsured, 17 percent to 46 percent have medical conditions, depending on the definition used.

Such health problems, the study found, are especially common among adults ages 55 to 64 - a group long recognized as a problem spot in the health-care system, because people of that age tend to have higher medical expenses but do not yet qualify for Medicare."

 
http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2013/11/cancer-patient-chooses-death-after-obamacare-causes-his-premium-to-increase-by-833-2750878.html
 
I don't know. You tell me.
 
Wait until the employer mandate hits.
 
I will have the most transparent administration.
I have Shovel ready jobs.
The IRS is not targeting anyone.
It was about a movie.
If I had a son.
I will put an end to the type of politics that "breeds division, conflict and cynicism".
You didn't build that.
I will restore trust in Government.
The cops acted stupidly.
I am not after your guns.
The Public Will Have 5 Days To Look At Every Bill That Lands On My Desk
It's not my red line it is the worlds red line.
Whistle blowers will be protected.
"We got back Every Dime we Used to Rescue the Banks, with interest.
I will close Gitmo.
I am not spying on American citizens.
ObamaCare will be good for America.
You can keep your family doctor.
Premiums will be lowered by $2500.
You can keep your current healthcare plan
I Barrack Hussain Obama pledge to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America. 
Your taxes will not go up unless you make more than 250K a year.
I will cut the deficit in half in 3 1/2 years or this will be a one term proposition.
The recession is over.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

So why don't you tell us, because Kev and others haven't yet, been able to tell me just "WHO" should determine what someone makes, i.e. bag loader, heart surgeon or someone flipping burgers?
I always believed you were worth whatever someone was willing to pay you but, I'm sure Libtards believe BaRack and the government should determine how much you get paid, even though they're not the ones signing the check!
And one more thing, as far as I'm concerned, working at McDonalds use to be a job that was considered a stepping stone, i.e. highschool kids or someone working their way through college, and not for someone raising a family of 8!

And for the last time, since I haven't received and answer yet, if Bob and Jerome screw the same amount of lug nuts on the same vehicle, Bob is single and Jerome married with 5 kids, should Jerome be paid more in order to attain a "LIVING WAGE"? And just who determines what a "LIVING WAGE" is..............my guess is the government!

Let me get this straight, you came to a website you KNOW is frequented by mostly UNION employees and then get offended because of a philosophy on getting payed a livable wage?
 
Do you see the issue here? Kev3188 is not the one causing the problem here, you are.
 
Personally I mostly agree with the points you made on post #584 but, you need to remember where your at (virtually) and act accordingly.

 

[Ms Tree]

I support Cruz

Wow. You support Cruz. Stop the presses. I never would have guessed.

 

[Dog Wonder]

Do you see the issue here? Kev3188 is not the one causing the problem here, you are.
 
you need to remember where your at (virtually) and act accordingly.

Hold hands.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiaLOzP1lCA

 

[Knotbuyinit]

Explain how you think the ACA/Obamacare is going to be ended. Do you really think that 33 million people (a number I heard in a story yesterday) will stand for having their health care insurance taken away? Those are the ones with pre-existing conditions and people who are now eligible for medicare.

Also all the dependents under 26 years old would lose coverage from their parents.

And you cannot say that you would keep this part of the plan while getting rid of the part that makes healthy people buy comprehensive plans. Insurance only works with large numbers of healthy people in the pool.

So tell me how (politically) this can be done.

Who would have guessed that Barack Obama would solve this puzzle himself?

The changes instituted by the Obama administration in response to implementation snags have ranged from perfectly legal areas of administrative discretion stemming from the vast regulatory powers granted to the HHS secretary under Obamacare, to more creative interpretations of that discretion, to Obama simply choosing to ignore parts of the law that became inconvenient.

HHS is now proposing to make new changes to alter a provision of Obamacare known as the "risk corridors" program.

Getting the bill through once is sufficient, and after that the Executive Office can just tailor things as needed. Such tailoring could obviously include directing the appropriate offices and functions to simply ignore the whole thing!

Well before Obamacare became law, most states had laws that required insurance companies to insure dependents =< 27 years old, on their parents health insurance policies. People with pre-existing conditions could get health insurance through risk pools.

 

[southwind]

These aren't answers to the questions that were asked...

Ditto that !
 
 

Let me get this straight, you came to a website you KNOW is frequented by mostly UNION employees and then get offended because of a philosophy on getting payed a livable wage?
 
Do you see the issue here? Kev3188 is not the one causing the problem here, you are.
 
Personally I mostly agree with the points you made on post #584 but, you need to remember where your at (virtually) and act accordingly.

Let me put it straight, as far as I know, this is a public site and is not funded by unions! If people get offended, so be it! I "do not" try to be politically correct and if toes are stepped on, even mine, and you can't handle it, maybe you should move to a more caring, sensitive website, where you might not get your feelings hurt. Just like Walmart employees, no ones forcing you to be here!

And for the 287th time, someone please tell me how much you have to paid, in order for you to be making a "Livable Wage" and exactly who determines it?

 

[delldude]

Really now.

Please explain how you come to that conclusion.

 
President Jarret's reign will have come to an end.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Ditto that !

Let me put it straight, as far as I know, this is a public site and is not funded by unions! If people get offended, so be it! I "do not" try to be politically correct and if toes are stepped on, even mine, and you can't handle it, maybe you should move to a more caring, sensitive website, where you might not get your feelings hurt. Just like Walmart employees, no ones forcing you to be here!

And for the 287th time, someone please tell me how much you have to paid, in order for you to be making a "Livable Wage" and exactly who determines it?

 
I see why they call you southwind bag now.
 
Introducing an idea is a better means of communication than dropping unwanted philosophies on an unreceptive audience.
 
If you want to keep acting the fool then go right ahead.

 

[Ms Tree]

So why don't you tell us, because Kev and others haven't yet, been able to tell me just "WHO" should determine what someone makes, i.e. bag loader, heart surgeon or someone flipping burgers?
I always believed you were worth whatever someone was willing to pay you but, I'm sure Libtards believe BaRack and the government should determine how much you get paid, even though they're not the ones signing the check!
And one more thing, as far as I'm concerned, working at McDonalds use to be a job that was considered a stepping stone, i.e. highschool kids or someone working their way through college, and not for someone raising a family of 8!

And for the last time, since I haven't received and answer yet, if Bob and Jerome screw the same amount of lug nuts on the same vehicle, Bob is single and Jerome married with 5 kids, should Jerome be paid more in order to attain a "LIVING WAGE"? And just who determines what a "LIVING WAGE" is..............my guess is the government!

 
I do not trust corporations to do the right thing.  If there are 20 people willing to do a job I am sure one of those people will be willing to do it for $2/hr.  I am not sure I like the idea of a company being allowed to take advantage of a market in that way.  The same goes for a company having a safe work environment.  There are mines active right now who have violations a mile long and are not being shut down because of favoritism and neglect. 
 
"What the market will bear" is an idea that rends to favor the employer far more than it benefits the employee.
 
There are some folks who are not able to rise beyond the level of their expectations.  I believe there should be safe guards in place to ensure they have the basics.  Food, shelter and medical care.
 
Perhaps instead of a minimum wage we can have a federal subsidy that makes up the short fall.  My guess is when companies find out they can screw over employees and have the fed make up the difference that they will drop their wages even further so I think a min wage is really the only way to go.

 

[southwind]

 
I see why they call you southwind bag now.
 
Introducing an idea is a better means of communication than dropping unwanted philosophies on an unreceptive audience.
 
If you want to keep acting the fool then go right ahead.

See! Now you've hurt my feelings and I'll have to find another forum that will say only nice things !
 

 
I do not trust corporations to do the right thing.  If there are 20 people willing to do a job I am sure one of those people will be willing to do it for $2/hr.  I am not sure I like the idea of a company being allowed to take advantage of a market in that way.  The same goes for a company having a safe work environment.  There are mines active right now who have violations a mile long and are not being shut down because of favoritism and neglect. 
 
"What the market will bear" is an idea that rends to favor the employer far more than it benefits the employee.
 
There are some folks who are not able to rise beyond the level of their expectations.  I believe there should be safe guards in place to ensure they have the basics.  Food, shelter and medical care.
 
Perhaps instead of a minimum wage we can have a federal subsidy that makes up the short fall.  My guess is when companies find out they can screw over employees and have the fed make up the difference that they will drop their wages even further so I think a min wage is really the only way to go.

But you trust government to make the right decisions for you?
We're talking about the ever elusive "Living Wage", not safety concerns, which are usually overseen by , none other than your favorite company called Government !
I'm sure there are people who cannot rise beyond the level of their expectations because of handicap issues, which I'm all for subsidizing, it's the people who can rise above that level but, continue to suckle the governments teet, because it's easier , I have a problem with !
 
Maybe if the Fed wasn't there to subsidize these people, company's wouldn't take advantage of it !
 
Someone please give me a "Monetary" value in dollars and cents as to how much a person should be paid in order to attain the golden calf (living wage)!

 

[Ms Tree]

See! Now you've hurt my feelings and I'll have to find another forum that will say only nice things !
 
But you trust government to make the right decisions for you?
We're talking about the ever elusive "Living Wage", not safety concerns, which are usually overseen by , none other than your favorite company called Government !
I'm sure there are people who cannot rise beyond the level of their expectations because of handicap issues, which I'm all for subsidizing, it's the people who can rise above that level but, continue to suckle the governments teet, because it's easier , I have a problem with !
 
Maybe if the Fed wasn't there to subsidize these people, company's wouldn't take advantage of it !
 
Someone please give me a "Monetary" value in dollars and cents as to how much a person should be paid in order to attain the golden calf (living wage)!

 
Is there an amount at which a person should not be paid?  Is $1/hr a fair wage if that is what the market dictates?  Is that a 'living wage'? 

 

[Dog Wonder]

I see why they call you southwind bag now.
 
If you want to keep acting the fool then go right ahead.

He heeds no encouragement.

 

[delldude]

 
The good news, if you want to call it that, is that roughly 1.6 million Americans have enrolled in ObamaCare so far.
 
The not-so-good news is that 1.46 million of them actually signed up for Medicaid. If that trend continues, it could bankrupt both federal and state governments.
 
Medicaid is already America’s third-largest government program, trailing only Social Security and Medicare, as a proportion of the federal budget. Almost 8 cents out of every dollar that the federal government spends goes to Medicaid. That’s more than $265 billion per year.
 
And it’s going to get worse. Congress has shown no ability to reform Social Security or Medicare. With ObamaCare adding to Medicare spending, we are picking up speed on the road to insolvency.
http://nypost.com/2013/12/07/the-medicaid-time-bomb/

 

[southwind]

Is there an amount at which a person should not be paid?  Is $1/hr a fair wage if that is what the market dictates?  Is that a 'living wage'?

Typical response. Again ”HOW MUCH IN DOLLARS AND CENTS SHOULD, LETS SAY SOMEONE WORKING THE CASH REGISTER AT BURGER KING,MAKE IN ORDER TO ATTAIN THE HOLY GRAIL (LIVING WAGE)!