IAM IBT Debate, Will it happen

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I see there is a nice little letter going around CLT addressed to Mr O Driscoll about a debate between him and Mr Marshall. It has attached to it a petition signed by U East mechanics wanting this debate to take place, now seeing how the members are the union will Mr O Driscoll honor the members wishes or will he avoid any type of debate at all. I hear this petition is at other stations as well. I think with something as important as what may transpire, a debate is certainly not out of the question where members from both the IAM and IBT can ask questions and get responses from leaders of both respected unions and let the members choose for themselves who they want to represent them, both unions have sent enough letters and flyers to build 100 homes, I think a face to face debate is a great idea!
 
I really doubt you would ever see it as I don't believe neither union has the Ba**s to debate face to face. They would rather sit back in sling mud at each other in the form of letters!! :down:
 
I have to agree with AP Tech on this one.

And Bill would win, he has been in Aviation for over 40 years and he kept TWA going longer with his and his memberships help.
 
I really doubt you would ever see it as I don't believe neither union has the Ba**s to debate face to face. They would rather sit back in sling mud at each other in the form of letters!! :down:
03-23-2006 Letter from Andy Marshall to US Airways Mechanics and Related.( Read at www.teamsterslocal104.org )
The IBT CALLED FOR THE DEBATE BACK IN MARCH!!
THE IAM WILL NOT COME OUT AND PLAY :mf_boff: !
I guess it is better for them to sling mud rather than the TRUTH TO COME OUT!! :shock:
 
03-23-2006 Letter from Andy Marshall to US Airways Mechanics and Related.( Read at www.teamsterslocal104.org )
The IBT CALLED FOR THE DEBATE BACK IN MARCH!!
THE IAM WILL NOT COME OUT AND PLAY :mf_boff: !
I guess it is better for them to sling mud rather than the TRUTH TO COME OUT!! :shock:
who gives a rats arse?

nothing to debate with IBT stooges.......


I know this is an election year for Congressman and Senators but the promises that are being made are not coming from them they are coming from the IBT Representatives.

It’s easy to tell people what you’re proposing.
It’s easy to tell people what they want to hear.
It’s easy to make Promises

The IBT is doing all the promising but their track record speaks for itself. Their Contract at America West is so weak their own members told CEO Parker they were "Bottom Feeders" compared to the industry. They are telling our members they will put us in their Western States Pension Plan. Why didn't they put their own members in it? First of all America West wouldn't pay for them, secondly that plan recently cut benefits to its members, some by as much as 60%. The Mechanics at America West HAVE NO PENSION PLAN, they have to contribute 6% of their pay to get 3% match from the company.



The IBT is proposing Seniority integration with protections attached to protect the America West Mechanics. They proposed the same thing with the CWA but finally conceded because the CWA had a contract and the IBT was still unable to get a first agreement with America West for its CSR's. PLUS how could they tell you they wouldn't do that to you when they're position with the CWA became public. WHAT do you think they would do if they were in control and the IAM had no say???



Promises, Proposals, and Reality The IBT is telling you they will take the IAM contract that they couldn't come close to matching and make it better. The IBT is telling you to trust them to do better for you than they could for their own Mechanics. The IBT is trying to Promise and Propose their way into being your representatives. The reality of it is the IAM made the best out of a terrible situation. The IAM faced with Bankruptcy and Abrogation of our labor agreement saved as many jobs and benefits as possible. Thousands of our members were furloughed, but thousands were not. All classifications still have indefinite recall rights and hopefully they will be able exercise them in the near future.
 
But I feel better seeing lies come out of an individual's mouth vs a letter whether it be IBT or IAM. :up: I just believe it would be interesting, just like reality TV :p What is there to lose?
 
So what about the ibt organizing the scabs at CO way before the IAM has done anything at NWA?

What about the ibt organizing the scabs at an airline in Canada before the IAM has done anything at NWA?

What about ibt F/As and dispatchers at Champion Air flying flights for NWA because of AMFA being on strike?

Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house!
 
I have to agree with AP Tech on this one.

And Bill would win, he has been in Aviation for over 40 years and he kept TWA going longer with his and his memberships help.
Well 7 tell your man to step up to the plate, We as IBT ARE WAITING for his reply.

OR IS HE SCARED OF A BOX BOY?????? and the TRUTH?????? :shock: :rolleyes: :up:

ONE MORE THING WHO HAS THE HIGHEST PAIED RAMP AND AMT's THE IAM OR THE IBT????? (THE IBT JUST FOR INFO)

AND THE MOST MEMBERS................ :up: :up: :up: :ph34r:
 
who gives a rats arse?

nothing to debate with IBT stooges.......


All classifications still have indefinite recall rights and hopefully they will be able exercise them in the near future.

Not the fine folks in the Planner and Tech Specialist Group. They have to apply and re-interview for their positions all over again, although they can be bumped by someone without having to prove their qualification to steal their jobs.
 
Well 7 tell your man to step up to the plate, We as IBT ARE WAITING for his reply.

OR IS HE SCARED OF A BOX BOY?????? and the TRUTH?????? :shock: :rolleyes: :up:

ONE MORE THING WHO HAS THE HIGHEST PAIED RAMP AND AMT's THE IAM OR THE IBT????? (THE IBT JUST FOR INFO)

AND THE MOST MEMBERS................ :up: :up: :up: :ph34r:
I will not say your man Bill is bad but a smart man will not fight a battle he canot win but it does show he is a looser.................... :lol: :eek: :up:
 
Wrong once again the highest paid Ramp Agents are WN rampers who are represented by the TWU.

Highest Paid Customer Service is WN, represented by the IAM.

Highest paid out of the Airlines that fly passengers is WN once again they are AMFA, remember they voted out the ibt.

Keep trying and don't let the facts get in your way!
 
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