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Well there is ALWAYS a next move. The issue is whether the next move is palatable to those involved. Frankly, "compromise on something" has a rather nice ring to it from where I sit.
So SH, if you rented your house out at an agreed to rate and the tenant decided to pay you less each month because he thought the original rent was high, you would...

compromise on something?

kick him out and find another tenant?
 
So SH, if you rented your house out at an agreed to rate and the tenant decided to pay you less each month because he thought the original rent was high, you would...

compromise on something?

kick him out and find another tenant?

COOL!

I like that analogy. Lets go our separate ways. West goes west and East goes east. You're a lot smarter than I thought!

Driver <_<
 
"NO"

See that? That is something no court in this country can take away from me. That is my vote. Your only hope is enough of us retire to give you the upper hand. That will take a few years. By then, the attrition will be captured and you will still be sitting in PHX with what you have right now.

Driver <_<
Actually a bankruptcy court can take your vote away from you and the NMB can also take your vote away from you and the POTUS can take your vote away from you and Congress can, better read up on Section 1113 of the bankruptcy code and the RLA.
 
Actually a bankruptcy court can take your vote away from you and the NMB can also take your vote away from you and the POTUS can take your vote away from you and Congress can, better read up on Section 1113 of the bankruptcy code and the RLA.
Wow, a reality check from one eastie to another. Things are getting weird around here. :blink:
 
Actually a bankruptcy court can take your vote away from you and the NMB can also take your vote away from you and the POTUS can take your vote away from you and Congress can, better read up on Section 1113 of the bankruptcy code and the RLA.

That's assuming we file for bankruptcy again or an EXTREME set of circumstances. We go into bankruptcy again, there may not be enough pieces left to pick up.

Maybe I should have prefaced my statement with "under the current circumstances".

Driver <_<
 
COOL!

I like that analogy. Lets go our separate ways. West goes west and East goes east. You're a lot smarter than I thought!

Driver <_<
Nope, there's really only one ultimate solution - USAPA concedes the Nic.

Why do you suppose the merger policy didn't have ALPA pick the integration methodology, but left it up to an impartial 3rd party? If ALPA had picked sides AND had ultimate authority to issue it's decision, it would be in the very same position USAPA placed themselves in.

The whole fabrication of "separate votes with veto power" is not part of the transition agreement. That would give each side the ability to tie things up indefinitely and is precisely why no such provision exists. So under ALPA, the majority votes for a combined contract would rule the day, just as now. The only difference is that the Nic methodology would not be in doubt, and no false hopes of a second bite at the apple would be raised.

So all the money wasted and earth salted between the pilot groups has gained nothing over what was available under ALPA. Yes you can still vote NO. But USAPA will quickly find that they cannot choose to indefinitely delay any vote and thereby advantage the east over the west in terms of capturing attrition or furlough protection.

The judge will likely force USAPA to negotiate in good faith inclusive of the NIC and allow a vote to take place in a timely manner. The courts should protect the process if they can't or won't protect the participants.
 
Nope, there's really only one ultimate solution - USAPA concedes the Nic.

Why do you suppose the merger policy didn't have ALPA pick the integration methodology, but left it up to an impartial 3rd party? If ALPA had picked sides AND had ultimate authority to issue it's decision, it would be in the very same position USAPA placed themselves in.

The whole fabrication of "separate votes with veto power" is not part of the transition agreement. That would give each side the ability to tie things up indefinitely and is precisely why no such provision exists. So under ALPA, the majority votes for a combined contract would rule the day, just as now. The only difference is that the Nic methodology would not be in doubt, and no false hopes of a second bite at the apple would be raised.

So all the money wasted and earth salted between the pilot groups has gained nothing over what was available under ALPA. Yes you can still vote NO. But USAPA will quickly find that they cannot choose to indefinitely delay any vote and thereby advantage the east over the west in terms of capturing attrition or furlough protection.

The judge will likely force USAPA to negotiate in good faith inclusive of the NIC and allow a vote to take place in a timely manner. The courts should protect the process if they can't or won't protect the participants.

blah blah blah blah blah...

All that to say "NIC or NOTHING"

Heard it...
 
I guess when the only way to "Move" up is to "Move" East "2 CLT", yep, it's "Nic or nothing" for the West......to "Move" that is, to CLT, DCA, or PHL, that is.......
 

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