Is the IAM strong enough to stand like UAW

[lithuanian]

We've made a stand! Workers will unite behind UAW. We should be uniting behind ALPA also. Tom Brickner represents the AFL_CIO. Our union will speak for us or the Tide Will Change!

 

[700UW]

Tom Brickner does not represent the AFL-CIO, he is the airline coordinator for the IAM.

And the UAW at GM is covered under the NLRA which allows them to strike when their contract expires, airline workers ar covered under the RLA which under it the contracts do not expire they become amendable and it takes an act of god to get released by the NMB to strike, and you can only strike during Section 6 negotiations, not a transition agreement.

Steps of Negotiations under the RLA

 

[robbedagain]

why are there different versions then wouldnt it be easier to have similar labor laws

 

[lithuanian]

Does that mean that AWA has Section 6? Everyone expresses that, but no one knows where it is anywhere in the contract under the old TWU. Help! Someone explain if maybe AWA Fleet and or Mechanics 142/141 could also STRIKE. So, Mr. Brickner is not AFL_CIO. Well! Who the H### IS. Where are the National union Members. The Teamsters will walk all over the other National union if no leaders of the AFL_CIO unvale themselves. Is it possible they are Extinct! So are Dinosaurs!

 

[700UW]

The RLA was the first labor law giving workers the right to organize legally but it was set up to protect interstate commerce and trade, it favors managment and not labor.

You are only allowed to strike if you are in section 6 negotiations and the NMB releases you.

 

[brokenwrench]

The RLA was the first labor law giving workers the right to organize legally but it was set up to protect interstate commerce and trade, it favors managment and not labor.

You are only allowed to strike if you are in section 6 negotiations and the NMB releases you.

IF! The IAM was a real union, focused on the improvement of its members and ALL working people they could simply push for and get language in there contract that there members can honor "any and all legal picket lines with no disciplinary action."

The AMFA has always pushed for this in there contracts and in fact honored an IAM picket at Ozark airlines.
The IAM in contrast will and has scabbed to keep their dues flowing.
The UAW even donated just under 1 million dollars to the striking members the AMFA/NWA's.
The IAM, well they crossed the line and even started performing struck work.

It is a pipe dream to think that the IAM will stand with the UAW.

 

[700UW]

Well maybe you need to learn to read,

The IAM fleet and M&R CBAs at US Airways all ready have that language about not crossing a sanctioned picket line and will not be disciplined for failing to cross the line.

But it has to be a strike at the airline itself.

It is against the law under the RLA to wildcat.

 

[PayParity]

why are there different versions then wouldnt it be easier to have similar labor laws

See here for your answer and also for when a union can legally strike.

 

[lithuanian]

Well maybe you need to learn to read,

The IAM fleet and M&R CBAs at US Airways all ready have that language about not crossing a sanctioned picket line and will not be disciplined for failing to cross the line.

But it has to be a strike at the airline itself.

It is against the law under the RLA to wildcat.

WE WILL NOT BE DISCIPLINED FOR FAILING TO CROSS THE LINE. The way it reads is that we CAN or CAN NOT! legally cross and picket. Don't mince words. Make it plan. America is into legal JARGON! Can we or can't we STRIKE! under the AWA TWU contract. And, again WHO is the AFL-CIO to IAM.

 

[PayParity]

WE WILL NOT BE DISCIPLINED FOR FAILING TO CROSS THE LINE. The way it reads is that we CAN or CAN NOT! legally cross and picket. Don't mince words. Make it plan. America is into legal JARGON! Can we or can't we STRIKE! under the AWA TWU contract. And, again WHO is the AFL-CIO to IAM.

20 The Company will not
21 require the employees hereunder to cross picket lines of the
22 Company's employees legally established under contractual
23 provisions and the Railway Labor Act on or in front of the
24 premises. The individual or concerted refusal to pass such
25 picket lines shall not constitute grounds for discipline,
26 discharge, lay-off, or be considered a violation of this
27 Agreement

 

[dexter]

Totally correct! As union members we tell the company we fear for our lives and go home. Doesn't matter what union you are with, if you see a picket line turn around go home, call in and tell them you don't want to be injured.

 

[lithuanian]

I read English. The last couple posts are confusing to the new Americans. Again! Do we have the right to strike under Section 6 of the Twu under the RlA. Is there no one on this post that has taken into the rules of the union members. That! in it's self tells us that we need a UNION that delegates explicit! rules as to what we CAN or CAN NOT DO! The IAM is not for us! Who IS!.

 

[700UW]

Click on the link I posted, you CANNOT strike until you exhaust the steps of the RLA and the NMB releases you into a 30 day cooling off period and the President does not step in and stop the strike.

Once again, CBAs under the RLA do NOT expire, they become amendable.

 

[UAL_TECH]

Click on the link I posted, you CANNOT strike until you exhaust the steps of the RLA and the NMB releases you into a 30 day cooling off period and the President does not step in and stop the strike.

Once again, CBAs under the RLA do NOT expire, they become amendable.

Unless your pension benefits under the PBGC is questioned, then it becomes date of contract.
Keep telling them 700UW but they won't listen.

Take Care,
B) UT

 

[AP Tech]

[quote name='700UW' date='Sep 24 2007, 11:31 PM' post='527546'
The IAM fleet and M&R CBAs at US Airways all ready have that language about not crossing a sanctioned picket line and will not be disciplined for failing to cross the line.

Was the AMFA picket line at NWA sanctioned picket line? I believe the IAM crossed in droves to do struck work? And the IAM was pissed at ALPA for crossing in 92?