I am not too familiar with the hierarchy of the TWU, but I know Jim Little is a national officer now. Did he have to retire from AA to do this or is he on leave? If he retired, did he retire after leaving the AA-TWU officer position? There is a stink going on because another APFA NAtional Officer has retired with her company provided A5 for life. She had 12 years seniority. We think this retire while you can still keep the benefit is pretty exclusive to the APFA. Just checking....
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Nope. You pretty much go out the door with what you have at that point in time.
When Ed Koziatek retired, he and his wife kept their A5 status. I know that for a fact because we were transitioning to ticketless nonrev, and hadn't taken into account how to handle A5 retirees....
Its even better, he has a A5 for personal use and his retirement is figured on his intl salary of 240,000+ a year which is exactly why they where so desperate to save the company in 2003 and freeze the pensions today because the intl officers far exceed the PGBC maxium and would have taken a bath.
He is on leave from his job as a dispatcher and he was in managment back in the 70's in New York before he bacame a dispatcher.
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I wonder if he tosses back a few with Jimmy H. ?
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Okay...we will just say that the TWU International President was an AA supervisor and not a manager. Like that makes it better.
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Okay...we will just say that the TWU International President was an AA supervisor and not a manager. Like that makes it better.
Perhaps not, but back in the 70's & 80's, it wasn't that uncommon to bounce back & forth between non-management & supervisor -- some because they hated the responsibility, others because they wanted the flexibility to transfer, and a few because they were demoted for incompetency.
From what I remember, in Flight Service, there are ways to get an adjusted seniority date provided you're only one, maybe two steps removed from flying (i.e. take a job as a supervisor, and bust back down). Don't remember how the TWU handles it. Pilots allowed it if you were furloughed but took a job in an analyst/specialist type capacity.
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I can understand what you are saying with the bouncing back and forth, but the way the story has been told was that he was a union fleet service clerk in New York before jumping ship.
In flight service you keep you seniority if you stay within the flight service department and are gone for less than a certain amount of time.
The real question for me, are your officers retiring immediately after their office term expires in order to keep their A5's? I guess some are as quoted above. How about Little? Was he still union officer when he resigned? I guess they all take the perk don't they?
The real question for me, are your officers retiring immediately after their office term expires in order to keep their A5's? I guess some are as quoted above. How about Little? Was he still union officer when he resigned? I guess they all take the perk don't they?
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well that explains alot of the past! I get it now, Dont do as i do, do as I want you to do"
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Has everyone forgotten about the bought-and-paid-for "Degrees"?
