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The point is that these people had ZERO business ever getting their grubby little hands on that information. The lack of more dire consequences for them changes that not one iota. To portray them as either victims, or noble and unjustly wronged individuals transcends all standard levels of hypocrisy, and is utterly absurd.

Given the expense they cost the company; is it even remotely possible that you're unable to understand that they likely weren't on management's best dressed list, and that the company did it's utmost to make it all go away, solely for their own benefit, and in doing so, covered up and/or obfuscated as much as they could?

Perhaps, just perhaps, these fine gentlemen were indeed too dense to extract the SSN's....but...they had/have them, as none can even pretend information once gained, just vanishes. If this had been personal information on all west pilots that went into the hands of the most vehemently anti-west people out east...individuals, wihout ANY legitimate reason for having said info....well...would you be thrilled.....?

I've no care as to how many "Integrity Matters" T shirts are ever printed up...there's ZERO reason for me or anyone out east to put any more trust into adorable little Fergie and the Boys than to offer the same faith towards a rattlesnake.....period.

For anyone to essentially brag about their not properly suffering severe consequences for their treacherous BS is most telling indeed....Perhaps, in lieu of any more "Integrity matters" shirts...consideration should be given for a new theme = "Tee Hee!...We got away with it!" on the front, with "Arent we cute?" on the flip side....just plain disgusting....

That's exactly what the scuzzbuckets within usapa want you to believe. That's why they do what they do. Certain people like Cleary get their meathooks on their very own 'state' that is usapa, and operate in broad daylight under the cloak of legitimacy. Such a deal, normally such a scuzzbucket as Cleary would be harmless without the money we all provided him. Makes me sick frankly.

Google Andrew Thomas and Lisa Aubuchon.
 
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Man, for someone that types so much and spends so much time with a thesaurus...

...let's put it this way - you're all book and no common sense.

Please tell us all that you're really not so inconceivably dense as to believe I missed your intended slur....? (Although the real possibility of that must be given earnest consideration from this latest response of yours) I'd thought the understanding of it obviously covered by: "Gotta' hand it to some of you = Pure "Class Acts" from start to finish".

Oh well...I suppose we'll never get more definition from you as to what a "slunt" is then ...? How proud of yourself you must be.....truly pathetic.

Hmmm...make that 2203 now....as in a comment directed towards essentially a nothing....
 
That's exactly what the scuzzbuckets within usapa want you to believe.

True or False: People I granted no authorization to, and that certainly haven't my interests in mind, gained access to very private data (without ANY legitimate authority for, or reason to have), that in "the wrong hands" could do financial and/or other damage....? The answer is True, and no scuzzbuckets were/are needed for me to be angry over that crap....other than the ones involved of course....period.

I place AOL on about the same level of trustworthiness as I do some "Nigerian Prince" using spam emails to con money. I sure as hell wouldn't leave a wallet around any such creatures unguarded...by which I also mean any/all company employees involved with this. Seriously; Why should I feel otherwise?.....I'm just not much impressed by "Integrity Matters" T shirts I guess.....People of any true integrity, wouldn't have done as they did, and even gotten their grubby mitts on the info to start with. Consider that for a moment.

PS: "Google Andrew Thomas and Lisa Aubuchon" Youch!...An interesting little pair of true slimeballs it seems...wow!
 
Please tell us all that you're really not so inconceivably dense as to believe I missed your intended slur....? (Although the real possibility of that must be given earnest consideration from this latest response of yours) I'd thought the understanding of it obviously covered by: "Gotta' hand it to some of you = Pure "Class Acts" from start to finish".

Oh well...I suppose we'll never get more definition from you as to what a "slunt" is then ...? How proud of yourself you must be.....truly pathetic.

Hmmm...make that 2203 now....as in a comment directed towards essentially a nothing....

Oh, of course, nowhere knew it all along!

Should have known Sherlock was all over that one.

2204 directed at nothing.
 
True or False: People I granted no authorization to, and that certainly haven't my interests in mind, gained access to very private data (without ANY legitimate authority for, or reason to have), that in "the wrong hands" could do financial and/or other damage....? The answer is True, and no scuzzbuckets were/are needed for me to be angry over that crap....other than the ones involved of course....period.

I place AOL on about the same level of trustworthiness as I do some "Nigerian Prince" using spam emails to con money. I sure as hell wouldn't leave a wallet around any such creatures unguarded...by which I also mean any/all company employees involved with this. Seriously; Why should I feel otherwise?.....I'm just not much impressed by "Integrity Matters" T shirts I guess.....People of any true integrity, wouldn't have done as they did, and even gotten their grubby mitts on the info to start with. Consider that for a moment.

PS: "Google Andrew Thomas and Lisa Aubuchon" Youch!...An interesting little pair of true slimballs it seems...wow!

You can suit yourself as to what you believe. Usapa's track record will just have to do for the overdo to some individuals apology that will never come. Speaking of track record, go back and look at all the ginned up usapa hysteria, then compare it to objective reality. It's amazing that anyone places any credence in much of anything it gins up and says. For all intents and purposes, certain people in usapa were just like Thomas and Aubuchon, abusing their bully pulpit.
 
That's exactly what the scuzzbuckets within usapa want you to believe. That's why they do what they do. Certain people like Cleary get their meathooks on their very own 'state' that is usapa, and operate in broad daylight under the cloak of legitimacy. Such a deal, normally such a scuzzbucket as Cleary would be harmless without the money we all provided him. Makes me sick frankly.

Google Andrew Thomas and Lisa Aubuchon.

And Rachel Alexander. But try not to look at Lisa and Rachel..woof!

As for Andy..the ginger freak is carrying around a 2x4 pretending to be Buford Pusser...pure crazy.
 
We have been dealing with you guys for seven years now. Until proven otherwise I am quite comfortable saying that you are all cut from the same cloth. In seven years I have yet to meet one eastie who was not of the superior, entitled mentality.


Then, you don't get around
 
....................Guy you might want to take this as a lesson that blindly following the union leadership and believing everything they say is a bad choice. Cleary played on your emotions to retain power and control. Objectively look at what he and usapa have achieved. NOTHING but spending money and looking foolish. They have not bettered any of our lot for over 4 years..............

Pretty good rant there clear. I agree with a lot of it. With that in mind, I'm sure you took Eric Ferguson to task when he said that Cleary was the best thing for WEST pilots, right?
 
You can suit yourself as to what you believe. Usapa's track record ....

LS...to me, this isn't properly an east vs west issue at all, but rather a personal one. These people (and who can know how many they are) had/have ZERO business having that information.....period. The pathetic cheese grater that only laughably passes for any semblance of company security protocols is equally or more at fault as well. I can certainly understand your feelings towards usapa from what you've dealt with yourself, but again; I don't view this as truly any partisan issue, but one of personal security concerns. I'd be no more pleased had that info been improperly made available to any persons or institutions other than AOL, that I've equally no reason for trusting, and who's motives certainly don't coincide with my own interests.

The only truly partisan note I'll make is that the individuals involved with this, whenever asserted or even implied to be bastions of "Integrity", are purely cause for cynical laughter.....

Oh well, as I've seen no harm done as yet....just another one of life's interesting, little events.

Have a good one.
 
I guess you haven't read a single thing I've posted for seven years.

Trader, I do appreciate your common sense posts. I do, however, have a hard time trusting any eastie because (especially in face to face discussions) the easties always begin sounding sensible and reasonable then somehow do a tight 15g turn the other way. I hope someday to meet with you and be convinced otherwise. For now, I'll maintain my skepticism.
 
Trader, I do appreciate your common sense posts. I do, however, have a hard time trusting any eastie because (especially in face to face discussions) the easties always begin sounding sensible and reasonable then somehow do a tight 15g turn the other way. I hope someday to meet with you and be convinced otherwise. For now, I'll maintain my skepticism.
That's only Breeze. No one else can't fake "sensible" nearly as well.
 
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