June's Welcome Aboard

[Travels2mch]

Apparently you do not understand the concept of a Collective Bargaining Agreement.

Do you know if someone else peforms work under someone else's CBA it costs the company money as it is a violation of the CBA that the company and the union has agreed too?

Actually I do understand the concept, but thank you anyway for the unrequested crash course. But, as I explained above, when the 'it's not my job' mentality affects customers (or the company and flight performance), then I don't give a rats a$$ about your CBA, or ABC or KMA.

And back to the OP, you and a couple others could learn a lot from that woman in the article, and PHXMama and the many other US folks like them that go above and beyond. They help keep your paycheck coming. This has nothing to do with unions, it's about doing what's right for your company and your customers.

 

[700UW]

Then you are truly ignorant on unions, companies and contracts.

The CBAs are legal contracts under Federal Law, if there is a problem with manpower the company needs to staff properly instead of scope language violations, which cost the company money.

And if you don't like it's not my job mentality then you do not have any respect for your coworkers who's money you take out of their wallets by violating their contract, you know the very thing the company has agreed to that who does what job.

 

[Travels2mch]

Then you are truly ignorant on unions, companies and contracts.

The CBAs are legal contracts under Federal Law, if there is a problem with manpower the company needs to staff properly instead of scope language violations, which cost the company money.

And if you don't like it's not my job mentality then you do not have any respect for your coworkers who's money you take out of their wallets by violating their contract, you know the very thing the company has agreed to that who does what job.

Well now me and the woman in the article are ignorant!!
At least I'm in good company!! 😛

 

[700UW]

Hey next time you are on a flight, why don't you go help the FAs serve drinks and do the safety demo to help them out?

Oh wait you cant because you are not FAA certified.

Let the people do the work who the company pays to do it, not another employee who's job it is not to do.

 

[Dorf]

Apparently you do not understand the concept of a Collective Bargaining Agreement.

Do you know if someone else peforms work under someone else's CBA it costs the company money as it is a violation of the CBA that the company and the union has agreed too?

I think most people realize that, but if the person that is supposed to be performing that work is not PERFORMING when they are supposed to be, and the family with the four kids is waiting on the jetway for their stroller for 15 minutes when they have a 30 minute connection because of the PHL factor, I would hope that someone wouldn't file a grievance if someone else got the stroller and got them on the way to their next flight. It's just good customer service to service the people who are paying the bills.

 

[700UW]

If someone is derelict in their job the company has the ability to take appropriate action.

Manpower shortages happen on the ramp all the time.

And do you realize if you are not a ramper and you get hurt loading or unloading bags the company legally does not and will not cover your injury under worker's compensation?

 

[Travels2mch]

Hey next time you are on a flight, why don't you go help the FAs serve drinks and do the safety demo to help them out?

On one flight I got up and grabbed the wine bottle for a refill and refilled 3 others in FC because the F/A was busy flirting with a stripper in the galley.....so no, I'm not beyond getting off my a$$ and doing something that someone else is getting paid to do...and I'm a customer who paid $1600 for that flight to DFW!!

It's just good customer service to service the people who are paying the bills.

I'm glad someone gets it.....700 wouldn't know good customer service if it hit him on the head!!

If someone is derelict in their job the company has the ability to take appropriate action.

So I guess the family in the above example should miss their connection, waiting for someone to take 'appropriate action'.

 

[700UW]

Well that is great and you broke numerous FARs.

Guess you dont care about safety and the law.

 

[Travels2mch]

Well that is great and you broke numerous FARs.

Call 9-1-1

 

[Dorf]

If someone is derelict in their job the company has the ability to take appropriate action.

I wish they would!

Manpower shortages happen on the ramp all the time.

I understand when there is a shortage. They happen in every job classification there is, BUT when the stroller is sitting on the ramp and the ramp worker is sitting on the belt loader talking to the girl in the bag tug instead of bringing the stroller up, well then, that stroller is going up to the family no matter whose toes/feelings get stepped on.

And do you realize if you are not a ramper and you get hurt loading or unloading bags the company legally does not and will not cover your injury under worker's compensation?

The stroller is already unloaded as above, just sitting there waiting for someone to perform the work they agreed to do when they accepted the job. I guess we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. No customers = no jobs.

 

[ChrisUS]

So, I'll ask again...is this for 2005 or 2006??

Anybody???

I think its safe to assume 2005.

 

[EricLv2Fish]

Well that is great and you broke numerous FARs.

Guess you dont care about safety and the law.

700...hypothetical situation: Intersection of 7th Street and Broadway. Old lady is crossing the street with her walker. The "Do Not Walk" signal begins flashing. She fall down. A young woman from the other side of the street violates the "Do Not Walk" signal to help her up and protect her from the on coming traffic. Did the young woman act in a legal manner?

Don't try to fight every battle. Pick the ones you think you can win....and before engaging it's a good idea to take the corn cob out of the buttocks.

 

[700UW]

Apples and oranges, helping a woman cross the street has nothing to do with labor, management, CBAs and scope language.

I don't care about battles the scope language defines who does what job and the company agreed to it, if other people can't respect nor understand it, then too damn bad.

They don't see the big picture.

Sorry dude, not into the games that you are with corn, try someone else.

There are thousands of US employees on layoff and by someone else performing work that is not theirs to do keeps those people on layoff.

 

[Travels2mch]

....and before engaging it's a good idea to take the corn cob out of the buttocks.

Eric....don't be silly....he couldn't get a corn cob in there, his head is in the way!! 😀

 

[Breath_of_Fresh_USAirways]

Then why has statistics proved Union Workplaces are more productive then their non-union counterparts?

What airline has the highest % of unionized workers?

Southwest, and gee they are the only airline that has been profitable for over 30 years straight and their employees are the highest paid in the industry.

I'm confused. If Southwest has all these unions and contracts and CBA, etc, etc, then why do their employees all seem to "pitch in" and get the job done = taking care of the customer no matter what job they're getting paid to do? Seems like the people at SWA have figured out that if they take care of the customer -- no matter who's job it is supposed to be -- that they all benefit? And that's where I get confused...if they have all these binding agreements and work rules -- how can this happen?

Honestly, I don't think SWA productivity is because of their unions; I believe it's their culture -- do what's right for the customer and do it now, if you can, even if it's not your job.