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On September 11, 2012, four Americans died in Libya at the hands of terrorists, and it wasn't a surprise.
It's a fact that security staffing was reduced on September 1, and that the late Ambassador Stevens had requested that the security levels be maintained where they were prior to the reduction...
It's a fact that embassy staff knew and communicated they were at high risk, yet security wasn't increased.
It's now coming out that State knew the morning after the event it was a planned attack, yet for a week, representatives of State, The White House, Obama himself, and even the Obama Campaign blamed this on a video trailer...
With all flow information continuing to come out about the coverup, denial, lying about how our ambassador was murdered, it's now a legitimate question of who gets held accountable for this, and what the ramifications are.
We know who won't allow themselves to be thrown under the bus --- the Pentagon and CIA. Pentagon doesn't determine embassy security, nor does CIA. I suspect that a lot of the information that will eventually hang this on the politicians is coming from the military and intelligence communities --- they tend to take things like, oh, defending human life, seriously.... They're also largely career professionals, and not political appointees.
Assume Hillary is held responsible.... At this point, she should probably resign. It's already likely her term as SecState will be forever tainted by this. State owns the security for our embassies and consulates. But, I don't see her falling on her sword. She knows she's done as SecState if Obama loses, and she's already hinted at not serving in a second term. There's no need for her to resign right now.
Regardless, there are folks like Bears who are convinced that Hillary will be able to over come anything and run in 2016. I'm not so sure. Opponents will be able to say "Hillary didn't listen, and people died".
Assume Barack is held responsible.... It's by far his biggest foreign policy blunder... The campaign can't continue to use the "GM survived, Osama died" tag-line without someone adding "So did Amabassador Stevens and three Americans".
He knows he can't throw Hillary under the bus, because it potentially poisons the well for the factions in the party who are allegiant to the Clintons over Obama. I don't see Bill or Hillary ever publicly saying "Don't Vote, because Obama F**** Us", but there certainly are other ways to send that message to the faithful.
Regardless, someone needs to be held accountable and responsible. This isn't going away.
And it won't go away in 2016, either.
It's a fact that security staffing was reduced on September 1, and that the late Ambassador Stevens had requested that the security levels be maintained where they were prior to the reduction...
It's a fact that embassy staff knew and communicated they were at high risk, yet security wasn't increased.
It's now coming out that State knew the morning after the event it was a planned attack, yet for a week, representatives of State, The White House, Obama himself, and even the Obama Campaign blamed this on a video trailer...
With all flow information continuing to come out about the coverup, denial, lying about how our ambassador was murdered, it's now a legitimate question of who gets held accountable for this, and what the ramifications are.
We know who won't allow themselves to be thrown under the bus --- the Pentagon and CIA. Pentagon doesn't determine embassy security, nor does CIA. I suspect that a lot of the information that will eventually hang this on the politicians is coming from the military and intelligence communities --- they tend to take things like, oh, defending human life, seriously.... They're also largely career professionals, and not political appointees.
Assume Hillary is held responsible.... At this point, she should probably resign. It's already likely her term as SecState will be forever tainted by this. State owns the security for our embassies and consulates. But, I don't see her falling on her sword. She knows she's done as SecState if Obama loses, and she's already hinted at not serving in a second term. There's no need for her to resign right now.
Regardless, there are folks like Bears who are convinced that Hillary will be able to over come anything and run in 2016. I'm not so sure. Opponents will be able to say "Hillary didn't listen, and people died".
Assume Barack is held responsible.... It's by far his biggest foreign policy blunder... The campaign can't continue to use the "GM survived, Osama died" tag-line without someone adding "So did Amabassador Stevens and three Americans".
He knows he can't throw Hillary under the bus, because it potentially poisons the well for the factions in the party who are allegiant to the Clintons over Obama. I don't see Bill or Hillary ever publicly saying "Don't Vote, because Obama F**** Us", but there certainly are other ways to send that message to the faithful.
Regardless, someone needs to be held accountable and responsible. This isn't going away.
And it won't go away in 2016, either.
