Lost Job thread. Will be interesting to see on weekly basis.

[Ms Tree]

A truely FREE society means that you are responsible for YOU. Not a government. The role of government is to preserve Liberty and protect it's citizens from aggression.

So if Planned Parenthood wants to exist it can do it on its own. Just like the Salvation Army or any other charity.

Where does your free society dribble talk about the children from these unwanted pregnancies and the children's lives who are turned upside down from an unwanted pregnancy?

 

[KCFlyer]

Where does your free society dribble talk about the children from these unwanted pregnancies and the children's lives who are turned upside down from an unwanted pregnancy?

Simple....they stop and take great pride as they give their "your mom should have kept her legs together" speech on personal responsiblity. It's usually the moms that get that speech, since in a lot of cases it's their SONS that the legs were parted for.

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

Where does your free society dribble talk about the children from these unwanted pregnancies and the children's lives who are turned upside down from an unwanted pregnancy?

It is the church and the Salvation Army that helps the children from unwanted pregnancies. They all can't be as fortunate as to born to a Palin, can they.

 

[southwind]

Unemployment checks, employers contribute to, SS yes. Medicare, yes. Snapcards, hell it is good enough for military families, it is good enough for everyone else. Medicaid? Dont worry about it. Those people will be killed by incompetent doctors that accept it. In a way, I wish they would abolish it too. It is an embarrassment to America. Had a relative on it. What a terrible shame!

You believe in a cradle to grave government, I don't !

Were there meaningful sex ed, family planning, availability of contraceptive and open discussion of sex then perhaps the number of unwanted pregnancies would decrease. I do know that the path we are currently walking is a utter failure. We have the highest teen pregnancy rate out of all western nations. So I will ask again, what is your plan?

If you want government and tax money involved , we ought to have condom dispensers at every street corner, if an unmarried Teen gets pregnant and wants an abortion, fine , but while your at it, throw in a tubal ligation, that can be reverse, at her expense, when she is ready and can afford to raise a child, to avoid the situation next time!

He slams luggage on baggage belts.

That's Kev's job ! Keep guessing !

It is the church and the Salvation Army that helps the children from unwanted pregnancies. They all can't be as fortunate as to born to a Palin, can they.

Warning Will Robinson !
"Wealth-Envy, Wealth-Envy, Wealth-Envy" !

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

You believe in a cradle to grave government, I don't !

I guess you don't believe in providing government benefits cradle to grave to these people either:

http://www.fns.usda.gov/outreach/getinvolved/military.htm


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"And just as our troops need your leadership and support, their families do
as well. Because they sacrifice and serve this nation right alongside
anyone who wears our uniform." -First Lady Michelle Obama

You served our country proudly and honorably, and we want to inform you that through
our nutrition programs, you may be eligible for assistance to ensure you, your family,
and fellow veterans have the assistance to ensure you have nutritious meals.

Below are FNS Programs that You May Be Eligible For:


Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP)

SNAP helps families buy nutritious food with an electronic benefit transfer (EBT) card that is like a debit card. SNAP benefits can be used at stores across the country and at some farmer's markets. SNAP can help you and your family eat right when money is tight.
To be eligible, households must meet income tests. Combat pay, Hostile Fire pay, and Imminent Danger Pay are not counted as income for SNAP. All other pay and allowances are counted as income. For more information on the income tests, please click here.

Helpful Links
•To see if your family might be eligible, click here.
•To apply for SNAP benefits, click here.
•To find authorized SNAP retailers in your area, click here.

The Emergency Food Assistance Program (TEFAP)

Through TEFAP, USDA provides food to State agencies, which in turn provide the food to local agencies – such as food banks, food pantries, and soup kitchens.
Veterans who are undergoing difficult economic times may qualify to receive TEFAP foods for household distribution, and may certainly receive meals in congregate settings. Click here for more information.

Food Distribution Program on Indian Reservations (FDPIR)

Veterans who live on Indian reservations or other approved areas may be eligible to participate in FDPIR. If interested, contact your Indian Tribal Organization or State agency.

Commodity Supplemental Food Program (CSFP)

CSFP works to improve the health of low-income seniors 60 years of age and older, as well as pregnant and breastfeeding women, other new mothers up to one year postpartum, infants, and children up to age six, by supplementing their diets with nutritious USDA foods.
Veterans may qualify for CSFP foods, if the program is available in their area. Click here to find out.

*Individuals may not participate in CSFP and the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children at the same time.


The Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children (WIC)

WIC provides nutritious food to low income women, infants, and children up to age 5 who are at nutritional risk. Participants also get information about healthy eating and referrals to health care and other social services.

WIC legislation and regulations also provide State agencies the option to exclude certain housing payments and other allowances provided to military personnel in determining WIC eligibility. These include:
• Basic Allowance for Housing (BAH)
• Family Separation Housing (FSH)
• Overseas Housing Allowances (OHA)
• Overseas Continental U.S. (OCONUS) Cost-of-Living Allowances (COLA)
Click here for more information.

The National School Lunch and School Breakfast Programs

The National School Lunch and School Breakfast Programs provide nutritious low cost or free meals to children attending participating schools and snacks at certain afterschool care programs.
For all Service Members:
• Any in-kind benefit, such base housing, is not considered income.
• Family Subsistence Supplemental Allowance (FSSA) - By law, the FSSA is not counted as income in determining eligibility for free and reduced-price meals.
• Department of Defense overseas schools are eligible to participate in the National School Lunch and School Breakfast Programs; this extends the availability for free and reduced-price meals to children in families stationed overseas.
Click here for more information.

Summer Food Service Program (SFSP)

Food That's In When School Is Out! During the school year, many children receive free and reduced-price breakfast and lunch through the School Breakfast and National School Lunch Programs. What happens when schools let out?
The SFSP is designed to feed children breakfast and/or lunch during the summer at feeding sites that can include schools, churches, community centers, summer camps, Indian reservations, and more. Click here for more information.

Free Nutrition and Physical Activity Resources

MyPlate

MyPlate was developed by the USDA as an effort to promote healthy eating to consumers. The MyPlate icon is easy to understand and it helps to promote messages based on the 2010 Dietary Guidelines for Americans.

You can visit www.choosemyplate.gov for healthy eating tips, recipes, resources, and games and contests for the whole family.

Let's Move

Let's Move is a comprehensive initiative, launched by the First Lady, dedicated to solving the challenge of childhood obesity within a generation, so that children born today will grow up healthier and able to pursue their dreams.

You can visit www.letsmove.gov for fun ideas on how to be more physically active and how to eat healthier.

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These folks paid into the system, just as I have paid my SS taxes, my employers have paid unemployment insurance, etc..

Let me simplify this for you. If you total your pik'em up truck, when you get paid for the repair job, do you call that an entitlement?

 

[SparrowHawk]

Where does your free society dribble talk about the children from these unwanted pregnancies and the children's lives who are turned upside down from an unwanted pregnancy?

Decisions have consequences! People say (including me) "If you don't believe in abortion, don't have one." Well the same holds true for unwanted pregancies. If you don't want to risk an ill timed pregancy then keep your pants on.

With individual liberty comes individual responsibility. They go hand in hand, like Husband & Wife (or even life partners) It was never the vision of the Founding Fathers to create a nation where the government stepped in and protected you from yourself.

 

[700UW]

Why dont we just go back to the stone ages where anarchy rules?

Seems thats what you want Sparrow.

 

[KCFlyer]

Decisions have consequences! People say (including me) "If you don't believe in abortion, don't have one." Well the same holds true for unwanted pregancies. If you don't want to risk an ill timed pregancy then keep your pants on.

With individual liberty comes individual responsibility. They go hand in hand, like Husband & Wife (or even life partners) It was never the vision of the Founding Fathers to create a nation where the government stepped in and protected you from yourself.

So in other words you tell the kid that mama should have kept her legs together. As a part of foreplay, should a couple run a quick net worth statement?

 

[SparrowHawk]

So in other words you tell the kid that mama should have kept her legs together. As a part of foreplay, should a couple run a quick net worth statement?

In a truely free society, what a couple does in the privacy of their own home is not the governments business! PERIOD

Conversely the government is not responsible for the end results of what occurs behind that closed door.

RE: Net worth statements might be a consideration between consenting adults, but again the government has no role in that decision either.

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

Decisions have consequences! People say (including me) "If you don't believe in abortion, don't have one." Well the same holds true for unwanted pregancies. If you don't want to risk an ill timed pregancy then keep your pants on.

With individual liberty comes individual responsibility. They go hand in hand, like Husband & Wife (or even life partners) It was never the vision of the Founding Fathers to create a nation where the government stepped in and protected you from yourself.

Let them survive like they do in a third world country. No food, no problem. You die in the street. Problem with that is we don't do that here. You and I will pay for them after they are born, or we can educate to prevent it.

Sparrow wants to go to a North Korea like society. Or maybe a caste system. At least you know your place. If you aren't born with it, take it or die.

 

[southwind]

I guess you don't believe in providing government benefits cradle to grave to these people either:


These folks paid into the system, just as I have paid my SS taxes, my employers have paid unemployment insurance, etc..

Let me simplify this for you. If you total your pik'em up truck, when you get paid for the repair job, do you call that an entitlement?

Please show me where I stated that people who have paid into the system, monetary wise or by putting their life on the line , for this country ,should not receive entitlements and stop making sh!t up !

Decisions have consequences! People say (including me) "If you don't believe in abortion, don't have one." Well the same holds true for unwanted pregancies. If you don't want to risk an ill timed pregancy then keep your pants on.

With individual liberty comes individual responsibility. They go hand in hand, like Husband & Wife (or even life partners) It was never the vision of the Founding Fathers to create a nation where the government stepped in and protected you from yourself.

The government is here to protect yourself , from yourself !

Let them survive like they do in a third world country. No food, no problem. You die in the street. Problem with that is we don't do that here. You and I will pay for them after they are born, or we can educate to prevent it.

Sparrow wants to go to a North Korea like society. Or maybe a caste system. At least you know your place. If you aren't born with it, take it or die.

I think everyone should live in the same exact 2 bedroom house, have 1 xbox, a flatscreen no bigger than 32" and drive a chevy volt and have no reason to excel at anything ! Trophy's for everyone !

 

[SparrowHawk]

Let them survive like they do in a third world country. No food, no problem. You die in the street. Problem with that is we don't do that here. You and I will pay for them after they are born, or we can educate to prevent it.

Sparrow wants to go to a North Korea like society. Or maybe a caste system. At least you know your place. If you aren't born with it, take it or die.

NO! I want a society where the Government actually follows the COTUS. The die in the streets comment is always heard when Progressives can't get past a point of veiw. Name calling and insulting will be next per the DNC playbook.

Any society that ignores the poor will not be a growing prosperous society for long. F.A Hayek, Nobel Prize winning Austrian School Economist noted that in order for a society to prosper their needed to be a "Minimum Income". He did not advocates a Federal Minimum wage, he merely stated it as a requirement for a properous society t be accomplished through a robust economy. This was long before anyone heard of "trickle Down".

I was born when my Mom was 16 and I got something no government program can provide. A loving relatively stable life with an actual family with a Mom, Dad, Grandparents and not very much money. No do-gooder came from "Social Services" to dictate to us how to raise me or with a check in hand. Dad taught me to think for myself, Mom taught me how to watch the dollars. My Grandparents spoiled me with the greatest gift. Time spent with those who had gone before. The wisdom drawn from the Great Depression and life in general.

Governments can't replicate the above and never will be able to. In fact all of thesocial programs end up breaking down the nuclear family and this the decline into a nanny state we find ourselves in today. I'm all for social programs just so long as the Federal Government doesn't confisate my wages to pay for other peoples mistakes. This country is a very forgiving and generous country and we should be tapping into that instead of costly and ineffective government programs.

 

[Dog Wonder]

The Just Ain't Right solution is no contraception and no support in the event of pregnancy.

The No Sex postion would explain all those grumpy old White men.

 

[SparrowHawk]

The Just Ain't Right solution is no contraception and no support in the event of pregnancy.

The No Sex postion would explain all those grumpy old White men.

It's not just sex Dog, it's everything. Student loans for example. These programs have driven the cost of college up 400% since inception. Same with government involvement in Healthcare. Right now pre ObamaCare the government accounts for 50% of all dollars paid out . Thus the 700% rise in H/C costs.

Free markets are always better at delivering a low cost high quality solution. Maximum Individual Liberty ensures maximum prosperity

 

[KCFlyer]

Free markets are always better at delivering a low cost high quality solution. Maximum Individual Liberty ensures maximum prosperity

Just ask any Californian how well the unregulated electricity markets were run under Enron.