Mechanics May Get Jobs Back

[700UW]

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Here is some good quotes from the article.

Mobile is the hometown of David S. Bronner, US Airways' chairman and the chief executive officer of the Retirement Systems of Alabama. IAM lawyer Sharon Levine asked Prestifilippo what role Bronner had played in having the Airbus work done in Mobile.

"Dr. Bronner let us know that Alabama had some fine facilities available," Prestifilippo said, eliciting chuckles in the courtroom.

Levine asked Prestifilippo if he was aware that three of the first 12 Airbus jets serviced at Mobile Aerospace were required to make emergency landings because of mechanical problems. Prestifilippo acknowledged familiarity with reports that three separate jets had reported problems with landing flaps, cabin pressurization and landing-gear hydraulics.

Levine said that union representatives had given her the information and that she had no further details. Airline officials played down the issue and said that all of its jets were safe.

William Pollock, chairman of the Air Line Pilots Association leadership committee at US Airways, said he was unaware of any pilot complaints about the safety of US Airways' jets. He said the mechanics' union was simply trying to prove that "outsourcing is inferior and I don't think that's the case."

Guess Pollock does not know about 700, 701 and 707.

Pollock, new VP of Flight Ops?

 

[Phantom Fixer]

Thanks for the update 700,

Our esteemed VP of Maintenance and Neville Pollock forgot got to include the Broke-D*ck arguement about tooling this time (LOL) 😛

 

[700UW]

He did not mention tooling, but he said we need equipment, but could make due with existing equipment, scaffolding and getting some stuff at auction.

He said the line hangar RON mtc was preferred in the hangar but not FAA mandated and that 75% of RON mtc is done outside as it is now.

He forgot to mention the three empty bays in PIT and the two empty in CLT.

He said it would take 60 to 90 days to bring mechanics back and trained.

Sharon Levine then asked him how come you trained all the people at MAE in 10 days and it would take three weeks each to train our mechs?

I tell you what, he was the only executive on the stand who for the most part was honest. Not totally honest, but mostly.

 

[pitguy]

Pollock's comments are very interesting. You see he will not be backing any mechanics.

 

[usfliboi]

Well maybe hes in the know???? None of this matters.... The cuts are a coming, one way or the other.... sleep better knowing it instead of making a dram out of court proceedings.

 

[700UW]

Phantom Fixer,

I love the Neville reference, it is so apropos.

 

[Phantom Fixer]

Phantom Fixer,

I love the Neville reference, it is so apropos.

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700,

I call'em like I see'em. All I can say about Pollock is this...I'm glad he's not representing me or my cause. I'm sure thier are many ALPA types wish they could say that too.

Frankly , Captain Pollock needs to sign a long term lease on a pair of Pitbulls spare testicles , but would he know how to use them if he got them? Dat be da question? :unsure:

 

[jack mama]

good luck to the mechs...i hope they can come to an agreement with the company to keep the work inhouse at competitive rates...

has the company ever made public the difference in price in house vs outsource?

 

[700UW]

He should have sat on the left side of the courtroom with the company, instead of on the right with the unions.

ALPA attorney seemed to me and others that he was just rubber stamping the company line and only had like 3 questions of one witness, never crossed examed Davis, Ashby, McKeen or Prestifillipo.

 

[Winglet]

Facts don't matter. Lakefield wants to emasculate the power of the IAM and be rid of them as an organized force. If he can kill job protection and outsource at will, there might as well not be a union.

As far as the ALPA hire-gun, he knows that ALPA has, relatively speaking, a pretty sweet deal compared to what is being demanded of the other employee groups. It's no wonder, Lakefield wants to get the pilots on his side as leverage against the other groups. This is elementary union busting 101. Then after the other groups are neutered, then he comes back after the pilots. But then again, maybe it's not true, since he's a former naval officer and such.

 

[Phantom Fixer]

good luck to the mechs...i hope they can come to an agreement with the company to keep the work inhouse at competitive rates...

has the company ever made public the difference in price in house vs outsource?

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jack mama,

Not that I've seen...but Aviation Maintenance Technician magazine did a story over a year ago where the conclussion based on averages world-wide showed a paultry 8% savings in the actual work itself...Only the work.

What these studies fail to show is this....and loses related too what I'm going to illuminate for you.

(1) Acft and Crews "Dead-Heading" too and from 3rd Party Facilities to have the work performed...as opposed to going from revenued in-bound flights straight to the in-house facility..and back out to revenued service again. hat we have here is wasted fuel , wasted time , wasted Acft utilization and wasted added cycles on an Acft that's life-span has been reduced by a cycle everytime an S-Check needs to be performed on a given Airbus...this is compounded by the items installed on the Acft that is time and cycle sensative as well , but hell , if you aren't screwing over your employee's properly nothing postive is really being done , right?

(2) The cost of logistical items having to be moved from vendors to company distribution facilities (PIT and CLT in our case) then to the 3rd party facility (Mobile in our case) Those movements are not cheap...and in most respects continues to violate the CBA with the IAM by the way.

(3) 3 of 12 Acft in our case had to be re-worked after 3rd party maintenance...and not one of these ordeals were handled to satisfaction on the cheap.

(4) U also has the worst habit of having way too many Airbus items in Mobile , when the rest of the supply chain is almost if not entirely dried up. U then has to spend money having the needed products brought back out of Mobile at premium prices...then one must consider the added costs of the additional downtime of the Acft in need , wherever in the system it happens to be broken?

I cannot explain to you the frustration maintenance has when we go to the computer for a need...or are told the only place we stock said item is Mobile Alabama...start the clock on the dollar burnings from that moment forward. There goes any hoped for or precieved savings in the world we know as U.

 

[nycbusdriver]

Pollock's comments are very interesting. You see he will not be backing any mechanics.

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Why would he back the mechanics? He's not even backing the pilots!

 

[delldude]

Pollock's comments are very interesting. You see he will not be backing any mechanics.

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William Pollock, chairman of the Air Line Pilots Association leadership committee at US Airways, said he was unaware of any pilot complaints about the safety of US Airways' jets. He said the mechanics' union was simply trying to prove that "outsourcing is inferior and I don't think that's the case."

pollock really wasn't characterizing U maintenance.....he was only stating an industry view...and for the most part , he's probably right.

 

[stoopidute442]

He did not mention tooling, but he said we need equipment, but could make due with existing equipment, scaffolding and getting some stuff at auction.

He said the line hangar RON mtc was preferred in the hangar but not FAA mandated and that 75% of RON mtc is done outside as it is now.

He forgot to mention the three empty bays in PIT and the two empty in CLT.

He said it would take 60 to 90 days to bring mechanics back and trained.

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Don't forget...we also have had a tail dock installed in a pile on the ground outside our PHL hangar for a few years now.

 

[NeedForSpeedNFS]

He did not mention tooling, but he said we need equipment, but could make due with existing equipment, scaffolding and getting some stuff at auction.

He said the line hangar RON mtc was preferred in the hangar but not FAA mandated and that 75% of RON mtc is done outside as it is now.

He forgot to mention the three empty bays in PIT and the two empty in CLT.

He said it would take 60 to 90 days to bring mechanics back and trained.

Sharon Levine then asked him how come you trained all the people at MAE in 10 days and it would take three weeks each to train our mechs?

I tell you what, he was the only executive on the stand who for the most part was honest. Not totally honest, but mostly.

[post="190649"][/post]​

700, this is all EMPTY rhetoric!!!! U wants to outsource maint, they asked the judge, HE will rule, we are in BK, thats why I said our victory, although somewhat of a morale booster, was a hollow victory!!!! They will do what they want!!!! In this atmoshere of the airline industry, the unions are just "delaying" the inevitable!!! What is so hard to understand here, 700?? I'm not saying I disagree with taking them to court, What I AM saying is YOU are fighting a LOSING battle!!! Just move on to something else......Forget about sucking up to the "big guys"....Meaning, ""the click"!!!!!! Thats what this is all about for you!!! You are seeking a job on easy street!!! You spout the same old "steel mill mentality", union rhetoric time and time again. 7 0 0.....It truly is quite boring!!