Merger

[Bird Doctor]

I would like to know just what your company is telling you back there?? US Airways is not the serving company. Maybe in name only, but America West Airlines and their backers are the money behind this MERGER. That is what it is a MERGER not an ACQUISTION (get your dictionary out).

 

[700UW]

America West is not using any of its money, they dont have it.

The MERGER, not buyout is being funded by outside investors.

Dont let the facts get in your way!

 

[desertgal]

PLEEEAAASE!!!
Not this topic AGAIN!
Bird Doc, look around the forum awhile...you will find this issue beat to death in several different threads on both HP and US forums.

 

[hp_fa]

America West is not using any of its money, they dont have it.

The MERGER, not buyout is being funded by outside investors.

Dont let the facts get in your way!

[post="300475"][/post]​

Actually FactMan, AWA can raise money if they need to. There was $500 million in stock to be issued that was filed for about a year ago and the company could have used it whenevr they saw fit.

Don't let facts get in your way.

 

[700UW]

Keyword, WAS.

And your own CEO Parker earlier this year said HP was going to run too low on cash.

Don't let the REAL facts get in your way.

Bottom line is OUTSIDE investors are funding the merger, it is not a buyout, it is a merger.

Keeping the US name and operating certificate.

 

[rjh]

Keyword, WAS.

And your own CEO Parker earlier this year said HP was going to run too low on cash.

Don't let the REAL facts get in your way.

Bottom line is OUTSIDE investors are funding the merger, it is not a buyout, it is a merger.

Keeping the US name and operating certificate.

[post="300498"][/post]​

There will be 2 operating certificates for approximately 2 years. There has been absolutely no decision as to which certificate will be kept.

 

[N924PS]

There will be 2 operating certificates for approximately 2 years.  There has been absolutely no decision as to which certificate will be kept.

[post="300535"][/post]​

As long as Jerrold Glass remains in the picture, you can count on the ALPA Pilots being whipsawed against each other.

The AW pilots have dealt with Mr. Glass previously and have more resolve than the current USAirways MEC to protect their contract.

The certificate that remains will be from the pilots that caved and have the lowest pay and most onerous working conditions. Any one care to guess which one that will be?

 

[acmech]

Boy, it sure seems as though from the comments from the USAir folks that they are very pissy about this merger. :angry: :angry:

 

[DCaf]

I would like to know just what your company is telling you back there??

Why is this so important to some people? To answer your question directly,
the company always refers to this THING as a merger, never an acquistion, which
it isn't.

 

[DCaf]

"Boy, it sure seems as though from the comments from the USAir folks that they are very pissy about this merger."




Funny, I was thinking just the opposite.

 

[osunut]

Keyword, WAS.

And your own CEO Parker earlier this year said HP was going to run too low on cash.

Don't let the REAL facts get in your way.

Bottom line is OUTSIDE investors are funding the merger, it is not a buyout, it is a merger.

Keeping the US name and operating certificate.

[post="300498"][/post]​

700 700 700...my my my, you again are lost in the clouds that you fly in. Parker said that if the industry did not improve, if fuel does not go down, then it was POSSIBLE that HP would run low.

He did not say it is a sure thing as you protray, but a possibly. Just as much it was a possiblity that other airlines would file for BK, as NW and DL did. Also low is a relative term as in only $300 million cash, not including other assests. I should know what he said, I was there when he said it.

So Mr. I know every FACT in the world, you don't.....for once admit it, I know you can, but your head might explode in trying.

 

[exB717Flyer]

There will be 2 operating certificates for approximately 2 years. There has been absolutely no decision as to which certificate will be kept.

[post="300535"][/post]​

It's a forgone conclusion that the USA certificate will survive. It's more mature and includes the European routes.

 

[MOC A320]

It's a forgone conclusion that the USA certificate will survive. It's more mature and includes the European routes.

[post="300791"][/post]​

The US Airways name was kept due to being a better reconized name. The certificate has not been determined yet. I don't think the routs will have anything to do with it. It will come down to what works best and cost effective for the new company. Everything comes down to cost (LLC). The HP Plane Deal has said it is a merger period, a new company with an old name. We will all see the companies polies start changing the 16th Sept.

 

[multitasker]

Please HP pilots don't work as hard as they think they do. There current contract affords them some decent perks. What's going to be an adjustment is that the old USAriways may have a diffiacult time adjusting to the low cost structure and bare bones budgets the AWA currently has. We do more with less. On the other hand AWA has alot to learn now that there will be more crew domiciles and different Int'l flying and healing the wounds at USAirway from past mgmt treatment. Doug has had experience with this since he had to undo all the bad attitudes from the Frankie era at AWA..

We just need to focus on the customer and provide the best service possible. It is the customer who sits in the seat of an aircraft that pays our salary. With out them we are nothing.

 

[exB717Flyer]

It will come down to what works best and cost effective for the new company.

Exactly. The USA cert already has European authorization, every aircraft type that AWA has plus the A330 and 767. It's also the larger company. Which cert do you think would require more modification?

BTW, in case you didn't know, I'm an AWA pilot and ex-TWA.