More MEM cuts

[LD3]

My last two weeks at work have been hell rough, thank you all for giving me something to smile about... I really can't remember the last time I laughed so hard reading some of these posts...

 

[700UW]

http://cohen.house.gov/delta-continues-breaking-its-promises#delta

 

[700UW]

 

[737823]

That's a bit extreme even for you 700

Steve Cohen is an idiot and doesn't understand the airline industry and how MEM no longer fits in with DLs network. He looks like fool harping about it now, any politician should know enough that corporations make all sorts of promises they don't keep. The writing has been on the wall for MEM. At the time of the merger DL didn't intend to cut flights/jobs but those plans have since changed. Move on, maybe he should worry about getting descent schools for his constituents or working to improve crime and violence in their neighborhoods.


Josh

 

[topDawg]

yeah, the narrative is DL was out to screw us at NW before the merger.

DL bad, IAM good, never give up the fight.....


guess what, Fred, DL peeps could care less about the IAM when the company said that DL is now paying 20% profit sharing for the first time in history... at least of DL.

Perhaps you can tell us, Freddy, when else in the history of aviation profit sharing has been paid at the 20% rate.

Freddy? where art thou?

Calm down. lol. Stop that pants wetting over the profit sharing. 
 
Delta is making to much money for it now. Real gives need to happen. More mainline stations....ie RDU that has more DL flights than MEM now still being DGS. 

 

[topDawg]

The answer is that NEITHER of the two pictures are correct, male or female.

The correct caricature would be someone who, close to celebrating 10 years on aviation internet chat forums, is now celebrating an industry which is now moving exactly in the direction I said it would 10 years ago.
There have been people over the past 10 years who have angrily defended one carrier or another against WT’s theories only to now watch increasingly obvious evidence that their carriers do not have the financial strength to compete in an industry as they thought but do have the financial and strategic vulnerabilities that I have said would exist. DL has vigorously defended not only its key markets including in ATL and NYC but has helped LFCs understand that there are softer targets where they can find success…. And DL’s strength in its key markets continues to grow.

I have repeatedly said that the organized labor movement does not have a compelling enough proposal to convince over 50K DL employees to give up their non-union status in order to pursue a union-represented arrangement that delivers fewer pay and benefits than DL offers its own employees – and the divide is growing wider and wider every year.

There have been people who have relished in character assassination, manipulation of the post voting system, and every other tactic to try to silence WT’s message but the facts are obvious that DL is indeed solidifying its position as the leader of the US airline industry and positioning itself among the best of the best globally in terms of its strategic successes and financial prowess. The 50K non-union DL employees who chose to not be represented remain in that position.

As DL employees look at profit sharing checks for next year that will be the largest any US airline has ever paid their employees on top of a string of pay raises that is unprecedented in the airline industry, the only viable explanation is because DL is running a solid company built on solid business principles that people on here decried as either insignificant or something “their horse” could overcome, yet the evidence is overwhelming that the distance between DL and the rest of the industry, including labor, is growing so wide that it really is hard to imagine how far the gap might really grow.

So, yes, I have all kinds of expressions about the airline industry but the most accurate is that the industry is evolving just as I believed it would because I understood key business principles which others denied.
Some may call such talk to be arrogant but that is ok w/ me what they think. At the beginning and end of the day, this is an anonymous place for the exchange of ideas. As such, my ability to accurately identify the key factors that have gotten the industry to this place and that will guide it going forward are unmatched.

uh.....look at most union contracts after bk? Delta has just been covering cost of living, minus the raise that came from cutting profit sharing that isn't really a raise but was called a raise. 
The pilots at Delta on the other hand will be getting raises better than every other front line employee. 
 
so....yeah. 
 
 
Oh and chill out, FAs are getting ready for yet another Union vote. It was very, very close last time. 
 
on the flip side the bulk of those at TechOps and the ramp are still to stupid......but i do think the number is getting smaller. Slowly up surely. (or maybe its just people leaving and being back filled by contractors.....?) 

 

[WorldTraveler]

no, DL pilots have received one raise as part of their current contract that exceed the rate offered to DL non-union personnel.
In exchange, the pilots gave DL the right to add more large RJs but also eliminate hundreds of small RJs and save hundreds of millions of dollars in maintenance expense on the RJs. That is why the pilots believe their contract was cost neutral to the company.

Other DL employees along with the pilots are benefitting from more flying being done by DL employees. Flight Ops is hiring off the street (or preparing to) for the first time in years now that furlough recalls, military leaves etc have all been given the chance to come back - and many have.

Congratulations for slamming your coworkers by calling them stupid. Ranks right up there with calling them "low information" and then expecting them to support your cause.

If the facts for unions are as compelling as you and others want to make them out to be, you don't have to belittle your coworkers in order to convince them of your point.

 

[Kev3188]

Congratulations for slamming your coworkers by calling them stupid. Ranks right up there with calling them "low information" and then expecting them to support your cause.
 

 
...Says the man who called thousands of employees "trash" and "donkeys."
 
 
Pot, kettle, etc.

 

[WorldTraveler]

except that I didn't call thousands of employees trash and donkeys.

 

[Kev3188]

Sure ya did. Those were the labels you used to refer to anyone pro labor on the property.

 

[WorldTraveler]

would you like to show me the quote?

and if what I said isn't true, why does it bother you and why do you carry the memories of untruths for years, weeks, or any period of time?

Anyone that has tried to effect societal change has been subjected to far worse than being called a donkey or trash.

Are you sure you are up to the task of making change happen?

and let's keep in mind I am not trying to change the status quo which is what you are doing. You need the approval of other people far more than I do.

 

[Kev3188]

What, you can't keep track of what you write anymore?
 
A cat call from the stands doesn't bother me; I'm only pointing out the hypocrisy in what you've written this morning.
 
Being a change agent is both inspiring. I've always enjoyed it. There's zero courage in carrying a corporation's water.
 
Luckily for those of us pushing for real improvements, the company is doing more to help than any activist could ever hope for.

 

[737823]

Seriously no one cares about MEM, it is a nothing market that brings nothing to the table in the DL network. The local community and demographics could never sustain the amount of service they have maintained all these years, too bad it has taken DL this long to make the adjustments. At least CVG has the support of the business community and has worked with DL to make the hub work.

Hopefully the same will happen at CLT in a few years with AA/US.

Josh

 

[Kev3188]

Remind me: What is it you (as in personally) don't like about CLT? The facility itself, or that it's a US hub?

 

[737823]

Dumpy facility, rude employees, dull city AA should move those flights/jobs to MIA and other AA hubs. CLT works woth US' low cost and low revenue model. As for it being pre-US, absolutely. The US employees will be riding on AA coatails. Wonder what type of culture/dynamic will form over time, probably similar to the situation with former Monitor Group consultants absorbed by Deloitte. I have traveled to CLT several times in the past year and dread every trip whether I fly B6 or US.

Josh