New Business Class Seats Choosen

[jcw]

Looks like AA is going with the Super Diamond from B/E
 
How soon do the installs start back up on the 777-200's?

 

[nevergiveup]

The new first class seats in the airbus look good, but sit terrible!

 

[kirkpatrick]

I googled and they look like the seats in BC on the A321T.  Are they going on other AC as well?
 
MK

 

[FWAAA]

Rumours from reliable sources say that the Super Diamond will be the seats on the 787-9s, the A350s and the remaining 23 or 24 unrefurbished 772s.

 

[MetalMover]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

 

[kirkpatrick]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

 
You gotta have a seat before you can sell it.  If you sell it for thousands it damn well better be a nice seat.
 
MK

 

[eolesen]

Yep. Those seats normally bring in between 5-10x what people are paying to sit in the main cabin, so they'd better be 5-10x better.

 

[MetalMover]

 
You gotta have a seat before you can sell it.  If you sell it for thousands it damn well better be a nice seat.
 
MK

Never mind the cost of the ticket....look at how many times they have configured seats... remove, replace...re pitch...replace...remove replace  reptich, replace, reconfigure, remove replace......
,,,,This all costs money as well!

 

[Worldport]

Never mind the cost of the ticket....look at how many times they have configured seats... remove, replace...re pitch...replace...remove replace  reptich, replace, reconfigure, remove replace......
,,,,This all costs money as well!

When Usair was trying anything and everything to stay in business they had a seat that(if I remember correctly) converted from 3 seats to 2 it was called Business Select or something, they had problems with them and eventually took them out  reminded me of Braniff painting their planes towards the end, what good was it. Now if DL or UA comes up with something better you will be replacing these. Maybe you could put your kids through college with the O/T

 

[MetalMover]

When Usair was trying anything and everything to stay in business they had a seat that(if I remember correctly) converted from 3 seats to 2 it was called Business Select or something, they had problems with them and eventually took them out  reminded me of Braniff painting their planes towards the end, what good was it. Now if DL or UA comes up with something better you will be replacing these. Maybe you could put your kids through college with the O/T

You ain't kidding...Remember MRTC? More room throughout coach?

 

[jimntx]

In any case, seats on the airplane need to be replaced more often than the chairs in your living room or mine.  When people who weigh 300 pounds or more squeeze into a coach seat, or when passengers allow their children to pour their sodas into the seat, or when people urinate (or worse) in the seat, the seat just doesn't last as long as one would expect them to last.

 

[xUT]

In any case, seats on the airplane need to be replaced more often than the chairs in your living room or mine.  When people who weigh 300 pounds or more squeeze into a coach seat, or when passengers allow their children to pour their sodas into the seat, or when people urinate (or worse) in the seat, the seat just doesn't last as long as one would expect them to last.

Geeze Jim, for a socialist, you sure beat up on fat people...

 

[kirkpatrick]

... remove, replace...re pitch...replace...remove replace  reptich, replace, reconfigure, remove replace......
 

 
Yep.  Competition and market changes keep us hopping.  When I started flying in 1972, FC seats to Europe were about like the ones you find on MD80s and 737s today.  But the food was sensational!
 
MK

 

[FWAAA]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Yes, new seats are expensive. So are new airplanes. So are employees. So is fuel.

Many of these new seats will be installed on AA's 50-some yet-to-be-delivered 787-9s and A350s. In addition, these new seats will be installed on the 30-some 772s that don't have the new forward/backward Zodiac seats.

The 772 seat replacement program was announced in May, 2012, and because Horton dicked around by commisioning a custom-designed forward/backward seat, two years into the reconfiguration, only a few planes have been refurbished thanks to production problems at Zodiac.

Had Horton authorized the plain-Jane Cirrus seats (like the 77W and all US A330s), odds are the 772 re-seating CIP would be complete by now.

Zodiac had no trouble delivering over 1,000 Cirrus seats for the 77Ws, but Horton couldn't just buy off-the-rack seats.

 

[eolesen]

Never mind the cost of the ticket....look at how many times they have configured seats... remove, replace...re pitch...replace...remove replace  reptich, replace, reconfigure, remove replace......
,,,,This all costs money as well!

I can only recall three times since 2000 that AA messed around with seat density.... MRTC, LRTC, and the addition of MCE.

When else did this happen?
 
 

The 772 seat replacement program was announced in May, 2012, and because Horton dicked around by commisioning a custom-designed forward/backward seat, two years into the reconfiguration, only a few planes have been refurbished thanks to production problems at Zodiac.

Yeah, I'm going to call BS on the blame there, FWAAA.

Horton was effectively neutered from early 2012, and had little significant influence from the point it was clear he was just a placeholder.

The merger closed in December 2013, which left Parker over two years to reverse course if he wanted to.