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How many times are you going to re-announce an order of the same Airbus planes?

About the same number of times we will re announce the decision delay or not to acquire these same Airbus aircraft. And considering we were supposed to have "more Airbuses than God could count" by now, that will make for a lot of re announcing.
 
Your rattletrap equipment, authoritarian management, clue-less yield management department and indifferent employees have driven away more high-paying customers than you ever dreamed of skippy. I am one of them.

One question: if the int'l market (and this is where I make my money so listen closely) is so vital to Usair's survival then when might you actually acquire the necessary equipment to make the operation run smoothly? Never mind the motivated employees to properly operate the routes.

How many times are you going to re-announce an order of the same Airbus planes?

Yeah, like the GM/Chrysler debacle headed our way, your airline has no idea of the cost of being distracted.

Wait, aren't we acquiring widebodies, and transitioning more 757's to ETOPS? With the given economic state of the airlines, it seems to me that US is still cautiously, slowly trying to expand their international presence. Sorry if it's not fast enough or good enough for you; that's why you have choices when you fly.

As far as motivated employees, I think we have some great people working here, both on and off the aircraft, and both East and West. Most of us take great care of our passengers, with what little we have to work with. Considering the concessions and uncertainty that we (I speak only for US) have been and are subjected to, I think we have a pretty amazing group of employees. Again, if we do not meet your current needs, you have a choice.

Seems strange to me that you are the only person that is predicting the demise of TLV before it even starts. :blink:
 
Wait, aren't we acquiring widebodies, and transitioning more 757's to ETOPS? With the given economic state of the airlines, it seems to me that US is still cautiously, slowly trying to expand their international presence. Sorry if it's not fast enough or good enough for you; that's why you have choices when you fly.

Your argument would be more tenable if during the boom times (and we DID have some) USAirways took the opposite action and aggressively invested in their international presence which is so profitable. (Like Delta did, while IN BANKRUPTCY yet.)

But USAirways never did that. They missed opportunities for international presence which allowed the competition to get a strong foothold in markets which were our for the picking.
 
Your argument would be more tenable if during the boom times (and we DID have some) USAirways took the opposite action and aggressively invested in their international presence which is so profitable. (Like Delta did, while IN BANKRUPTCY yet.)

But USAirways never did that. They missed opportunities for international presence which allowed the competition to get a strong foothold in markets which were our for the picking.

So we blame Tempe for that, too? The "boom times", unfortunately, have been few and far between since 1990. You still can't argue that we are not growing our TA fleet, that we have cr@p employees across the board, or that TLV will not work. That was more my point.
 
Hey Ma.

Lube up the pickup. Get Cletus to watch the sheep.

We are goin to Paris.

How are you going to keep the Kettles down on the farm now that they've seen Paree?
 
PHL-TLV will be a very POPULAR ROUTE, CO runs TWO - 777's and that is the most PROFITABLE ROUTE and with the Jewish Population in the NE. PHL TLV will be a money maker. TWA ran that route out of JFK along with TOWER AIR. Flights were packed it was daily 747 service with lots of CARGO.

I flew Tower Air on the JFK-TLV route once. I think that I was part of the cargo! :lol:
 
I'm glad to see US continuing to expand its international flights even though folks on here are complaining.
 
I'm glad to see US continuing to expand its international flights even though folks on here are complaining.


One of the few that is actually taking delivery of new aircraft and conservatively adding growth internationally. Whether year round or seasonal, it is something that other legacy and low cost carriers are not doing.
 
One of the few that is actually taking delivery of new aircraft and conservatively adding growth internationally. Whether year round or seasonal, it is something that other legacy and low cost carriers are not doing.

What are you talking about???

CO has taken delivery of new aircraft this year and will continue to take delivery of new aircraft. Also, CO currently runs 3 flights to CDG from EWR (757, 767, 777) and one from IAH (777) and more in the summer, including from CLE

AA is taking delivery of nearly 80 planes in 2009 and 2010 and just made a big order of the 787.

US's widebody fleet is pathetic at best and they can't shrink any more than they already have.
 
What are you talking about???

CO has taken delivery of new aircraft this year and will continue to take delivery of new aircraft. Also, CO currently runs 3 flights to CDG from EWR (757, 767, 777) and one from IAH (777) and more in the summer, including from CLE

AA is taking delivery of nearly 80 planes in 2009 and 2010 and just made a big order of the 787.

US's widebody fleet is pathetic at best and they can't shrink any more than they already have.

Yeah, and do your home work before posting!

CO has only taken delivery of 737NGs in 08, and little or none fly TA. They have not taken delivery of any 67s or 77s this year.
http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Contine...active-b767.htm
http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Contine...active-b777.htm

AA is only scheduled to take delivery of 3 737-8s in 09, and has notified Boeing of accellerating additional deliveries to replace the MD80s. AA won't taking delivery of 787's until 2012. Boeings 787 is still sitting idle due to the strike at Boeing, and won't fly until sometime next year if at all.
 
Yeah, and do your home work before posting!

AA is only scheduled to take delivery of 3 737-8s in 09, and has notified Boeing of accellerating additional deliveries to replace the MD80s. AA won't taking delivery of 787's until 2012. Boeings 787 is still sitting idle due to the strike at Boeing, and won't fly until sometime next year if at all.

Oh, the irony in telling someone else to do their homework.

You haven't kept up with yours, since the bolded portion is false:

During the quarter ended September 30, 2008, the Company entered into amendments to its 737-800 purchase agreement with the Boeing Company. Giving effect to the amendments, the Company is now committed to take delivery of a total of 36 737-800 aircraft in 2009 and 40 737-800 aircraft in 2010. In addition to these aircraft, the Company has firm commitments for eleven 737-800 aircraft and seven Boeing 777 aircraft scheduled to be delivered in 2013 - 2016.

Under the Boeing 737-800 and Boeing 777-200 aircraft purchase agreements, payments for the related aircraft purchase commitments will be zero in the remainder of 2008, approximately $1.2 billion in 2009, $1.1 billion in 2010, $99 million in 2011, $220 million in 2012, and $1.0 billion for 2013 and beyond. These amounts are net of purchase deposits currently held by the manufacturer. Any incremental firm aircraft orders will increase the Company’s commitments.

In October of 2008, the Company entered into a sale-leaseback agreement for 20 of the 36 Boeing 737-800 aircraft to be delivered in 2009. Such financing is subject to certain terms and conditions including a minimum liquidity requirement. In addition, the Company has arranged for backstop financing which could be used for the remaining 16 of the Company’s 2009 Boeing 737-800 aircraft deliveries, as well as a significant portion of the 2010 Boeing 737-800 aircraft deliveries. If the Company elects to utilize the backstop financing, all of its purchase commitments for 2009 and 2010 would be covered by committed financing except for approximately $400 million of commitments, substantially all of which are due in the fourth quarter of 2010.

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?...iZkb2M9MQ%3d%3d

You should have done your homework.
 

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