Northworst

[jenny@nw]

What’s wrong with the uniforms? The only nasty part of the uniform is the ignorant reflective vest that is absolutely useless. Now that is embarrassing to wear. Especially when you are working on a loaded aircraft with passengers. Even after you wash the things they are dingy and grungy. It bothered me at first and still does to a degree but oh well. It's NWA's passengers I am rubbing up against when I have to work my way down the isle of a boarding aircraft. If they don't care I don't see why I should. It does still bug me though.


This wouldn't be the same scab that was fired just after the strike then went on T.V. and told the nation that he, an FAA Certified A&P Mechanic was incapable of changing a tire, would it? He made the whole "craft" across the country look like it was filled with a bunch of bumbling idiots.

Just for the record I have six family members on my flight benefit list and they have all flown on NWA now at least twice and look forward to enjoying more flights. I have no qualms at all about letting my family fly Northwest. I myself fly NWA just about every week now and have yet had any problems other than being bumped a couple of time and spending an extra hour or two at the airport. You guys killed that extra wait time quick.

well, it's what you feel. I've been on the aircraft and I prefer not to do that with my mom. Work feels like russian roulette. Insurance? I'm checking out some "other options".

Well, after working the ground, ramp, gate and now F/A I do know there are some incompetent mx working and there's competent mx working... just that now we have really incompetent mx working who lacks the years of experience to fix things right away instead of calling up whomever to figure some of it out or wait for a "real scab with experience" to appear.

At this one mechanical I had recently, we waited 8 hrs. Boy that was FUN!--and guess what? That was to CHANGE A TIRE!


So what? Those uniforms are just ugly. What is that called "steenland blue"? Well I suppose having them on is better than not. yuck.

 

[PlayTheOdds]

At this one mechanical I had recently, we waited 8 hrs. Boy that was FUN!--and guess what? That was to CHANGE A TIRE!

Eight hours? Do you recall where this took place.

 

[PlayTheOdds]

Well, after working the ground, ramp, gate and now F/A I do know there are some incompetent mx working and there's competent mx working... just that now we have really incompetent mx working who lacks the years of experience to fix things right away instead of calling up whomever to figure some of it out or wait for a "real scab with experience" to appear.

Now this statement does bother me? You are beginning to sound like the clown F/A at the AMFA Rally that spewed such trash. In the event this is what you perceive I am going to give you a scenario and then you tell me what you think is going on. Fair enough?

You are sitting in first class chatting with the rest of the flight crew, there is about fifty minutes till departure. There is a write-up in the logbook that reads: ALT select knob on A/P control panel broken. Scab Mx shows up, reads the log page, makes a call on the radio then disappears for about fifteen minutes. There is now thirty-five minutes left on the clock. The Scab Mx returns with a new A/P panel and MM. Scab changes the A/P panel does a quick check then puts in a call for a Real Scab Mx. Scab Mx is standing in the galley making an entry in the log book. There is twenty-minutes left on the clock and boarding is well on its way Scab Mx is now in your way.
Lead F/A asks how much longer, Scab Mx says he is waiting for another mechanic to finish this up and that it will be another ten to fifteen minutes. Real Scab Mx shows up and disappears into the flight deck. Scab MX is standing right behind him at the doorway. Ten minutes later Scab Mx and Real Scab Mx leaves the flight deck, then you see Real Scab Mx make his entry into the logbook and leave. Scab Mx then returns the logbook to the flight deck and departs the aircraft. There is eight minutes left on the clock. A/C is ok for service.

I am sure you have seen this very scenario play out before, please do tell what you are thinking when this happens.

 

[jenny@nw]

Now this statement does bother me? You are beginning to sound like the clown F/A at the AMFA Rally that spewed such trash. In the event this is what you perceive I am going to give you a scenario and then you tell me what you think is going on. Fair enough?

You are sitting in first class chatting with the rest of the flight crew, there is about fifty minutes till departure. There is a write-up in the logbook that reads: ALT select knob on A/P control panel broken. Scab Mx shows up, reads the log page, makes a call on the radio then disappears for about fifteen minutes. There is now thirty-five minutes left on the clock. The Scab Mx returns with a new A/P panel and MM. Scab changes the A/P panel does a quick check then puts in a call for a Real Scab Mx. Scab Mx is standing in the galley making an entry in the log book. There is twenty-minutes left on the clock and boarding is well on its way Scab Mx is now in your way.
Lead F/A asks how much longer, Scab Mx says he is waiting for another mechanic to finish this up and that it will be another ten to fifteen minutes. Real Scab Mx shows up and disappears into the flight deck. Scab MX is standing right behind him at the doorway. Ten minutes later Scab Mx and Real Scab Mx leaves the flight deck, then you see Real Scab Mx make his entry into the logbook and leave. Scab Mx then returns the logbook to the flight deck and departs the aircraft. There is eight minutes left on the clock. A/C is ok for service.

I am sure you have seen this very scenario play out before, please do tell what you are thinking when this happens.

what I'm thinking? real scab, scab what's the differnence? :blink:
Of course I recall where the 8 hr maintenance took place.

 

[PlayTheOdds]

what I'm thinking? real scab, scab what's the differnence? :blink:

As I suspected you just look and assume. You have no clue as to understand a situation other than to make assumptions, toss in some speculation, think that you are smarter than you really are then start rumors of incompetent maintenance.

Of course I recall where the 8 hr maintenance took place.

Hmmmmmmmm. Should I even bother asking where? If so where did this alleged eight hour tire change take place?

 

[robbedagain]

As I suspected you just look and assume. You have no clue as to understand a situation other than to make assumptions, toss in some speculation, think that you are smarter than you really are then start rumors of incompetent maintenance.
Hmmmmmmmm. Should I even bother asking where? If so where did this alleged eight hour tire change take place?

it was probably one of the planes that blew out all four tires on landing! man what a shoddy maintaince program NWA has!

 

[jenny@nw]

As I suspected you just look and assume. You have no clue as to understand a situation other than to make assumptions, toss in some speculation, think that you are smarter than you really are then start rumors of incompetent maintenance.
Hmmmmmmmm. Should I even bother asking where? If so where did this alleged eight hour tire change take place?

Oh pooh, pooh, pooh all you can do is criticize me without even knowing me. I'm not starting any rumor, it's a fact.

Speculation, ASSumptions, hypothetical hypothesises-

Any mechanic RIGHT NOW working now on NW planes - are most likely A scab. -That's a fact. No mistake about it when I see that sexy steenland blue outfit you guys have to wear (or are we wearing our old uniforms? or are we "swiss"?)

 

[Hackman]

Oh pooh, pooh, pooh all you can do is criticize me without even knowing me. I'm not starting any rumor, it's a fact.

Speculation, ASSumptions, hypothetical hypothesises-

Any mechanic RIGHT NOW working now on NW planes - are most likely A scab. -That's a fact. No mistake about it when I see that sexy steenland blue outfit you guys have to wear (or are we wearing our old uniforms? or are we "swiss"?)

You see Jenny, PlaytheCods doesn't like what he is told, the facts presented, or the dire predictions of those who have been in the business for many years. He has a large inferiority complex, blind hatred of unions, and he detests the fact that Scab Air maintenance is substandard. This proven by the constant maintenance related incidents, the FAA reports, reports from those in the field like you and the fact that Scab Air is faltering without its unionized mechanics who were forced to strike.

He fancies himself a player, but he's really just a dupe tring to make a few scab dollars off the backs of those who fought for the his scab wages. He will soon be relegated back under the rock he crawled out from, and he won't be seen again. I would take out all the insurance I could afford if I was an F/A at Scab Air. It has to be a nerve racking time to work a flight. I will never step foot on any Scab Air aircraft or will any of my family or friends, I'll walk first.

Take care, stay safe.

 

[PlayTheOdds]

Oh pooh, pooh, pooh all you can do is criticize me without even knowing me. I'm not starting any rumor, it's a fact.

Why of course I am being a critic. Your lack of a decent response shows that you know noting of the maintenance side of the house. All you see is mechanics moving about and you have no idea what they are doing yet you come here and say that they haven't a clue as to what they are doing. Just for shets and giggles here is another one for you,

You are onboard a 58 Series aircraft along with four of your co-workers standing with your little roll around bags blocking the entry for Maintenance, cleaners and catering just chit-chatting away about how worthless the company is. Scab A steps in and says excuse me and makes his way to the flight deck. A few moments later he passes back through as he begins his check of the cabin. As he goes by you hear him call for Scabs B and C. Ten or so minutes go by and the next thing you know there a three Scabs in the Fwd Galley signing off the logbook. You then make a silly comment about "How many Mechanics does it take to change a light bulb." They look at you and smile and say, "We are waiting for more to turn the aircraft."

You have absolutely no idea as to what they were there for yet you come here and claim that we do not know what we are doing. So please do tell us why the three mechanics were on the aircraft yet you saw them do nothing.

Any mechanic RIGHT NOW working now on NW planes - are most likely A scab. -That's a fact. No mistake about it when I see that sexy steenland blue outfit you guys have to wear (or are we wearing our old uniforms? or are we "swiss"?)

If I didn't know any better I would swear that Robbed wrote this. 😉

If this company is so horrible why do you work here? If you are fearful of the aircraft why do you fly on them?

 

[PlayTheOdds]

You are sitting in first class chatting with the rest of the flight crew, there is about fifty minutes till departure. There is a write-up in the logbook that reads: ALT select knob on A/P control panel broken. Scab Mx shows up, reads the log page, makes a call on the radio then disappears for about fifteen minutes. There is now thirty-five minutes left on the clock. The Scab Mx returns with a new A/P panel and MM. Scab changes the A/P panel does a quick check then puts in a call for a Real Scab Mx. Scab Mx is standing in the galley making an entry in the log book. There is twenty-minutes left on the clock and boarding is well on its way Scab Mx is now in your way.
Lead F/A asks how much longer, Scab Mx says he is waiting for another mechanic to finish this up and that it will be another ten to fifteen minutes. Real Scab Mx shows up and disappears into the flight deck. Scab MX is standing right behind him at the doorway. Ten minutes later Scab Mx and Real Scab Mx leaves the flight deck, then you see Real Scab Mx make his entry into the logbook and leave. Scab Mx then returns the logbook to the flight deck and departs the aircraft. There is eight minutes left on the clock. A/C is ok for service.

Hello Guests how are you fine Ladies and Gentlemen doing this evening? Do take the time to become a member and share your thoughts with us. I am going to explain in English the two scenarios I presented to our new member and not so sweet Jenny@NW who was incapable of making a decent response because she was clueless as to what I was saying as many of you guys might have been that are not in the aviation maintenance field. So while my UNION Adversaries have tucked their tails and run to lick their wounds I would like to take the time to explain the above and following posts.

In the above scenario Scab Mx discovers a write-up in the logbook that requires him to replace the auto pilot control panel. He simply calls the shop and has them order a new panel then leaves the aircraft to get the maintenance manual. He then returns to the aircraft and installs the panel and performs an operational test of the newly installed panel. The panel passes the functional test so he then calls Real Scab Mx. Why? Because the Auto Pilot Control Panel is also an LLM sensitive item. LLM is an acronym for Lower Landing Minimums. These numbers aren't exact but you will get the point, Lets say you are landing at an airport with heavy rain. On a normal approach if the pilot can't see the runway at an altitude of 1500 feet he must then make a missed approach and will probably have to divert to another airport with more favorable weather conditions. Which means you’re screwed for the day. With an LLM certified aircraft the pilot can go down to lets say 700 feet before having to make a missed approach. This give him a much better chance of being able to visually see the runway in inclement weather thus a better chance of you reaching your destination airport. Well Scab Mx was not certified to re-certify the aircraft for LLM operations thus he called Real Scab Mx who has had the required training and been certified to re-certify the aircraft for LLM operations. Then Real Scab enters his operational check and LLM re-certification into the logbook and now you have an aircraft that is ready to operate in LLM conditions.

Now to a Flight Attendant like Jenny@NW, Scab Mx is an idiot because he had to call for help when in fact he was simply following company Maintenance Standards of Procedures.

You are onboard a 58 Series aircraft along with four of your co-workers standing with your little roll around bags blocking the entry for Maintenance, cleaners and catering just chit-chatting away about how worthless the company is. Scab A steps in and says excuse me and makes his way to the flight deck. A few moments later he passes back through as he begins his check of the cabin. As he goes by you hear him call for Scabs B and C. Ten or so minutes go by and the next thing you know there a three Scabs in the Fwd Galley signing off the logbook. You then make a silly comment about "How many Mechanics does it take to change a light bulb." They look at you and smile and say, "We are waiting for more to turn the aircraft."

This is a much simpler scenario that I was certain she could pick up on but apparently not. The first clue is "58 Series" Any Northwest aircraft number with the first two digits being 58 is simply an ETOPS Qualified aircraft. Which basically means that the aircraft has been maintained to and meets strict FAA guidelines that allows a twin engine aircraft to fly over the ocean.

Scab A boards the aircraft and checks the logbooks and sees that the pilot has requested oil servicing. Well guess what? Oil Servicing is an ETOPS critical item. SCAB A has not been ETOPS Qualified so he calls for Scab B and C who are ETOPS qualified. Why Scabs B and C? Because on an ETOPS Aircraft one mechanic cannot service both engines, each engine must be serviced by different ETOPS Mechanics. Scab A has finished his inspection of the cabin and Scab B and C has finished the oil servicing and they all meet in the Forward Galley to inter the oil servicing into the logbook. Of course there is Jenny@NW now sitting in first class fuming over the gossip she just heard about her pitiful contract and wondering, "why are there three Scabs in my Galley? How many Scabs does it take to prepare an aircraft for a thru flight!!!! This is insane I wish the union mechanics were still here!!!!" Then of course she comes to this board and rants about something that she has no clue about. She dogs our blue uniforms, that I happen to like, then puts a blue dress on herself. I don't get it. Oh yea just before she begins to serve the passengers their drinks during the flight she puts on a blue apron as well. She’s so cute.

Hmmmmmmmmm, where do you put the quarters?

 

[jenny@nw]

Thanks, you're a little sweetheart yourself. Oh dear, with all these little pre concieved notions about us, no wonder many F/A don't like people like YOU (scab, non scab, regardless)....

Many of us have had other careers in other fields and are doing this for the fun of meeting people and doing things.
I know one girl who worked in ATC and retired, became a F/A. Many of us come from vast educational backgrounds, from high school educated to PHD.

Well why do you like to brag about your extensive knowlege of maintaining aircrafts and how you still have passes ( on "greyhound air" a.k.a. NW fares are dirt cheap)I'm impressed! Wow...I've never even heard of a regular MX that bragged about this, because they don't need to go around proving themselves.

I'd like to see you handle a red level emergency due to some mechanical.

 

[PlayTheOdds]

Thanks, you're a little sweetheart yourself. Oh dear, with all these little pre concieved notions about us, no wonder many F/A don't like people like YOU (scab, non scab, regardless)....

Preconceived? What are you talking about. There is nothing preconceived here. I followed your lead Hotshot, no point in back peddling now.

Many of us have had other careers in other fields and are doing this for the fun of meeting people and doing things.
I know one girl who worked in ATC and retired, became a F/A. Many of us come from vast educational backgrounds, from high school educated to PHD.

Have fun then and quit crying about your contract.

Well why do you like to brag about your extensive knowlege of maintaining aircrafts and how you still have passes ( on "greyhound air" a.k.a. NW fares are dirt cheap)I'm impressed! Wow...I've never even heard of a regular MX that bragged about this, because they don't need to go around proving themselves.

It is not a matter of bragging though I do enjoy "Gloating on occasion. It is simply a matter of keeping a bit of truth on these boards other than having people like Hackman, Chas(aka DEAD BIRD), NH/BB, PRINCESS, ROBBED and now you just to name a few from totally slandering NWA and the Scabs that work there. These guys are so full of BS it is unreal and have had a total unionized monopoly on these boards that has gone unchecked for who knows how long. How many time have I asked Hackman to post the latest DOT report and refused to because it showed improvement in NWA operations. Then he is going to post some ancient riff-raff and say "This is the latest I could find." lying union propagandist is what he is. These guys don’t have to prove themselves because they are union, why prove yourself when your union? There is no need, for it doesn’t matter how worthless you are, that card you carry is all the proving one needs to keep a job.

I'd like to see you handle a red level emergency due to some mechanical.

Oh this one is simple, how about a real challenge. All you have to do is turn on the prerecorded message and stand in the aisle and point at the exit doors. If more drama is required simply hold up a seat belt extender and flip the release lever. B)

 

[groundcontrol]

Are you hitting the juice a little harder than usual tonight PTO? Geezzz the last few hours of PTO blogs have been a real challenge to try and read....matter of fact I gave up trying.

Your ranting is really out of control tonight. :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

 

[PlayTheOdds]

Are you hitting the juice a little harder than usual tonight PTO? Geezzz the last few hours of PTO blogs have been a real challenge to try and read....matter of fact I gave up trying.
Your ranting is really out of control tonight.

No, between insomnia and HACKmans ignorance I am just wired. Oh and lets not forget our new friend Jenny@NW who I am almost willing to bet is robbed's sister.

I just had to come back to this. Ranting? How do you figure? There has been no ranting here only solid facts noted. HACKman and Jenny@NW have been effectivly exposed as union propagandists. I asked Hackman repeatedly to post the DOT stats and he refused then lied about having them then tried to down play them. I asked Jenny why she thought that Scabs didn't know what they were doing and even made it kindergarten easy for here to state her case and instead she chose to dribble down her chin with her little meaningless one liners. Sorry groundcontrol but your out of bounds on this one for sure.

 

[Hackman]

Preconceived? What are you talking about. There is nothing preconceived here. I followed your lead Hotshot, no point in back peddling now.


Have fun then and quit crying about your contract.


It is not a matter of bragging though I do enjoy "Gloating on occasion. It is simply a matter of keeping a bit of truth on these boards other than having people like Hackman, Chas(aka DEAD BIRD), NH/BB, PRINCESS, ROBBED and now you just to name a few from totally slandering NWA and the Scabs that work there. These guys are so full of BS it is unreal and have had a total unionized monopoly on these boards that has gone unchecked for who knows how long. How many time have I asked Hackman to post the latest DOT report and refused to because it showed improvement in NWA operations. Then he is going to post some ancient riff-raff and say "This is the latest I could find." lying union propagandist is what he is. These guys don’t have to prove themselves because they are union, why prove yourself when your union? There is no need, for it doesn’t matter how worthless you are, that card you carry is all the proving one needs to keep a job.
Oh this one is simple, how about a real challenge. All you have to do is turn on the prerecorded message and stand in the aisle and point at the exit doors. If more drama is required simply hold up a seat belt extender and flip the release lever. B)

Hey SUPERscab, when have I made libelous statements? (slander is spoken dummy) When? What? That Scab Air is failing? A scab like yourself couldn't get on at an airline without being a scab? You have no life except this BB? Your a 7 month scab with no clue? Please state what was false, I would like to know. If anyone is the liar here its PlaytheCods.

You refuse to do your own research 'Cods, so when I have an idiot like you with a big mouth, a braggart running in overdrive engaged by a pea brain, I'll take my shots. I'm not carrying your water. A punk scab with a lost soul so far from mommy is what you are. You still fail to understand just what you have done to yourself, and your profession. You will work for less, you will never lead, always follow. Your a scab wrench gypsy, who prostitutes himself for a scabs pittance. The corporate thugs like Dougie Stealin' love you, you helped make him rich while he screws the workers. You are the scum of the the earth. Your the type of louse that moves in on another man's spouse when they have a fight. "Hey... she left, and I just helped myself while I could".

You are way far out on proving ones self if a union member. You think if we don't work nothing will happen? The union will stop you from being terminated for non-performance? Jeezus, your a scab brick. Do your moronic statements also include SWA? The most sucessful and heavily unionized (mechanics are AMFA too) airline flying today. They don't prove themselves because they are union, is that right? I expect no less from a idiot like you 'Cods.

Enjoy the ride down scab.