Obama's Patriot Act

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A pair of bills introduced in the U.S. Senate would grant the White House sweeping new powers to access private online data, regulate the cybersecurity industry and even shut down Internet traffic during a declared "cyber emergency."

Senate bills No. 773 and 778, introduced by Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.V., are both part of what's being called the Cybersecurity Act of 2009, which would create a new Office of the National Cybersecurity Advisor, reportable directly to the president and charged with defending the country from cyber attack.

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[FA Mikey]

First off nice title, but its not Obama's bill. The congress writes bills and passes laws, not the President. Second, we know Bush was bad. Including the drafts they made to eliminate the 1st, 4th and 5th Amendments to the constitution. He actually ignored the fourth amendment since he took office and was watching and listening all along.

I can accept the government having the power to take action in an emergency. With our Electrical grid, water, telecomunication, banking and so many other vital parts of our infrastructure on line and accessible. There should be a way to take critical information off line in the event of some sort of terrorist cyber attack.

It goes to far and I dont want the privacy intrusion. After 8 years of being watched, and listened to by the administration, I wont accept it continuing.

 

[Seatacus]

First off nice title, but its not Obama's bill.

Then why did President Bush get linked to the Patriot Act? I guess it was really congress' Patriot Act. Thanks for clearing that up...............

 

[tech2101]

Then why did President Bush get linked to the Patriot Act? I guess it was really congress' Patriot Act. Thanks for clearing that up...............

Was the Patriot Act proposed by Bush?

I remember Bush pushing hard for the act.

You are correct. If Obama asked for this, then it will be his bill.

 

[Dignity]

First off nice title, but its not Obama's bill. The congress writes bills and passes laws, not the President. Second, we know Bush was bad. Including the drafts they made to eliminate the 1st, 4th and 5th Amendments to the constitution. He actually ignored the fourth amendment since he took office and was watching and listening all along.

I can accept the government having the power to take action in an emergency. With our Electrical grid, water, telecomunication, banking and so many other vital parts of our infrastructure on line and accessible. There should be a way to take critical information off line in the event of some sort of terrorist cyber attack.

It goes to far and I dont want the privacy intrusion. After 8 years of being watched, and listened to by the administration, I wont accept it continuing.

did you happen to notice the first paragraph in the draft and the last sentence... in particular the last four words...

"and for other purposes".....

 

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Thank you Seatacus and Tech2101............He who signs owns the bill.

Mikey said-
Second, we know Bush was bad.
Including the drafts they made to eliminate the 1st, 4th and 5th Amendments to the constitution.

Who is the they Mikey?? Must refer to the Congress....

Funny..I do not remember any attempt what so ever to eliminate those amendments.

Just wait and see what your favorite non Constitution loving Prez does here....get back to me.

 

[Buckethead]

did you happen to notice the first paragraph in the draft and the last sentence... in particular the last four words...

"and for other purposes".....

Thats the disturbing part for sure!

 

[Buckethead]

did you happen to notice the first paragraph in the draft and the last sentence... in particular the last four words...

"and for other purposes".....

Thats the disturbing part for sure!

 

[FA Mikey]

Then why did President Bush get linked to the Patriot Act? I guess it was really congress' Patriot Act. Thanks for clearing that up...............

He requested from his lap dog republican congress sweeping powers to spy on Americans. He campaigned for it and signed it in to law.

 

[delldude]

He requested from his lap dog republican congress sweeping powers to spy on Americans. He campaigned for it and signed it in to law.

Just like Hussein Obama will with the Rockefeller sponsored bill............... 😱

 

[FA Mikey]

Who is the they Mikey?? Must refer to the Congress....

The Bush White House.


Extraordinary Measures

A new memo shows just how far the Bush administration considered going in fighting the war on terror.
By Michael Isikoff | Newsweek Web Exclusive
Mar 2, 2009

In the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, the Justice Department secretly gave the green light for the U.S. military to attack apartment buildings and office complexes inside the United States, deploy high-tech surveillance against U.S. citizens and potentially suspend First Amendment freedom-of-the-press rights in order to combat the terror threat, according to a memo released Monday.

Many of the actions discussed in the Oct. 23, 2001, memo to then White House counsel Alberto Gonzales and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld's chief lawyer, William Haynes, were never actually taken.

But the memo from the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel—along with others made public for the first time Monday—illustrates with new details the extraordinary post-9/11 powers asserted by Bush administration lawyers. Those assertions ultimately led to such controversial policies as allowing the waterboarding of terror suspects and permitting warrantless wiretapping of U.S. citizens—steps that remain the subject of ongoing investigations by Congress and the Justice Department. The memo was co-written by John Yoo, at the time a deputy attorney general in the Office of Legal Counsel. Yoo, now a professor at the Boalt Hall School of Law at the University of California, Berkeley, has emerged as one of the central figures in those ongoing investigations.

In perhaps the most surprising assertion, the Oct. 23, 2001, memo suggested the president could even suspend press freedoms if he concluded it was necessary to wage the war on terror. "First Amendment speech and press rights may also be subordinated to the overriding need to wage war successfully," Yoo wrote in the memo entitled "Authority for Use of Military Force to Combat Terrorist Activity Within the United States."

full story here

Funny..I do not remember any attempt what so ever to eliminate those amendments.

Funny they didnt cover that on fabricated news.

Just wait and see what your favorite non Constitution loving Prez does here....get back to me.

Got anything to back up that?

 

[FA Mikey]

Just like Hussein Obama will with the Rockefeller sponsored bill............... 😱

Interesting to note, you only think he will use this to spy on US. We KNOW Bush use warrantless wiretapping on US citizens.

 

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The Bush White House.


Extraordinary Measures

A new memo shows just how far the Bush administration considered going in fighting the war on terror.
By Michael Isikoff | Newsweek Web Exclusive
Mar 2, 2009

In the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, the Justice Department secretly gave the green light for the U.S. military to attack apartment buildings and office complexes inside the United States, deploy high-tech surveillance against U.S. citizens and potentially suspend First Amendment freedom-of-the-press rights in order to combat the terror threat, according to a memo released Monday.

Many of the actions discussed in the Oct. 23, 2001, memo to then White House counsel Alberto Gonzales and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld's chief lawyer, William Haynes, were never actually taken.

But the memo from the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel—along with others made public for the first time Monday—illustrates with new details the extraordinary post-9/11 powers asserted by Bush administration lawyers. Those assertions ultimately led to such controversial policies as allowing the waterboarding of terror suspects and permitting warrantless wiretapping of U.S. citizens—steps that remain the subject of ongoing investigations by Congress and the Justice Department. The memo was co-written by John Yoo, at the time a deputy attorney general in the Office of Legal Counsel. Yoo, now a professor at the Boalt Hall School of Law at the University of California, Berkeley, has emerged as one of the central figures in those ongoing investigations.

In perhaps the most surprising assertion, the Oct. 23, 2001, memo suggested the president could even suspend press freedoms if he concluded it was necessary to wage the war on terror. "First Amendment speech and press rights may also be subordinated to the overriding need to wage war successfully," Yoo wrote in the memo entitled "Authority for Use of Military Force to Combat Terrorist Activity Within the United States."

full story here



Funny they didnt cover that on fabricated news.

On the same day that President Kennedy signed EO #10995, he also gave birth to four successive Orders that Clinton included in his EO containing provisions to disable constitutional rights. Executive Order #10997 empowers the Secretary of the Interior to seize all energy production facilities--specifically, "electrical power", "petroleum", "gas", "solid fuels", and "minerals". Section 3, subsection (d) of that order, entitled " Claimancy" states:

Prepare plans to claim materials, manpower, equipment, supplies and services needed in support of assigned responsibilities and other essential functions of the Department...to insure availability of such resources in an emergency.

Mikey say...DUH

You just wake up there Sonny Boy?

Just wait and see what your favorite non Constitution loving Prez does here....get back to me.

Got anything to back up that?

Obviously you can not comprehend my statement...

 

[delldude]

Got anything to back up that?

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This is before and in the first 70 or so days...I'm sure it will grow from here,comrade.

Like I said stay tuned.

Mikey...I thought you were intellectually in tune.... :huh:

Or are you just another Obama Koolaid drinker.....

 

[southwind]

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This is before and in the first 70 or so days...I'm sure it will grow from here,comrade.

Like I said stay tuned.

Mikey...I thought you were intellectually in tune.... :huh:

Or are you just another Obama Koolaid drinker.....

Just went and purchased a couple of 2nd amendment rights this weekend !