Obama's War on Women

[700UW]

And what if the condom breaks?

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

You have never said anything about ways to prevent the pregnancies or how to take care of the unwanted children. So what's your plan?

Why is it his responsibility to take care of other living, able bodied people's children? That is the parents job, not his.
 

what's your plan to take care of the children after they are born?

Again, why should he have a plan to take care of someone else's children? WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF TAKING PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR CHOICES!!!!!!!! 

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

And what if the condom breaks?

Condoms breaking is not news, people know there is a risk of breakage when having sex. If you can't live with the risk then don't engage in the activity. Keep making excuses, you are very practiced at it.

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

When the infant is dropped off at the fire station, who pays?

 

[Dog Wonder]

And what if the condom breaks?

You are asking a Teletubby who never needed one.

 

[Ms Tree]

there are plenty of ways to prevent pregnancy waiting till after the fact is not the definition of prevention perhaps you have problem with that word... scrambling a babies brains and sucking it through a straw is not prevention... its horrific 
 
funny thing is that if someone killed a puppy in a similar fashion the so called prochoice people would lose their minds... oh its just an unwanted human no big deal best to deplete the surface population 

Really?  Thanks for sharing that revaluation Cpt Obvious.  So do you support sex ed in school?  Tax funded birth control?  Child care mandates for business?  Anything to help prevent the pregnancy in the first place or assistance in caring for the child after the fact?
 
Im a huge animal lover.  Have several cats and dogs, all strays.  I have a small feral colony in my back yard that I have brought to the vet to have spayed.  Both of the females were pregnant a the time.  he kittens were aborted and the females fixed.  No more kittens being born.  Adults are being fed and housed.  Sometimes  bad things have to be done for the betterment of a person or group as a whole.  It's life.

 

[Ms Tree]

When the infant is dropped off at the fire station, who pays?

When the mother cannot afford health care who pays?  When the mother cannot afford to feed the child who pays?  When the mother cannot afford to house or clothe the child who pays? 
 
These are the things that conservatives do not seem to care about.  They just care about the 9 months of pregnancy.  Not a single conservative on this board has even mentioned sex ed, birth control, child care assistance or anything else related to pregnancy prevention of child care.

 

[PHXConx]

Really?  Thanks for sharing that revaluation Cpt Obvious.  So do you support sex ed in school?  Tax funded birth control?  Child care mandates for business?  Anything to help prevent the pregnancy in the first place or assistance in caring for the child after the fact?
 
Im a huge animal lover.  Have several cats and dogs, all strays.  I have a small feral colony in my back yard that I have brought to the vet to have spayed.  Both of the females were pregnant a the time.  he kittens were aborted and the females fixed.  No more kittens being born.  Adults are being fed and housed.  

why wouldnt i support sex ed in schools sure hand out condoms i dont have a problem with that assuming people arent going to have sex is silly, we could give away free birth control all of it, id rather do that than public  funding of killing babies
 
 
bottom line  if you want to have sex and not have a baby the responsibility is yours to do everything you can to not have a child, but once you do you dont get to kill it...  
 

 Sometimes  bad things have to be done for the betterment of a person or group as a whole.  It's life.

 
 
said the eugenics like Margaret Sanger and Adolf Hitler...  glad to see that progressivism  still holds onto those core beliefs 
 
"In fact after a little consideration they are willing to compromise and agree that the sickly and diseased and poverty stricken should not have offspring and the healthy might limit their number, if it is done through self control. There are two uses to be made of the sex act: generation and regeneration, or reproduction and love.
 
So far as the ways of nature can be understood by us, it is both our right and our duty, as intelligent beings, to control these for our own uses and our own good. This includes both the regulation of the number of children and the methods of regulation."
 
Margaret Sanger 1923

 

[PHXConx]

When the mother cannot afford health care who pays?  When the mother cannot afford to feed the child who pays?  When the mother cannot afford to house or clothe the child who pays? 
 
These are the things that conservatives do not seem to care about.  They just care about the 9 months of pregnancy.  Not a single conservative on this board has even mentioned sex ed, birth control, child care assistance or anything else related to pregnancy prevention of child care.

those are seperate issues we are discussing the life of a person, you are talking about things that affect the life of that person after they are born, im not against any of those things on the merits of them by themselves 
 
id rather publicly fund birth control for those that cant afford it than to fund abortions...  

 

[Ms Tree]

 
why wouldnt i support sex ed in schools sure hand out condoms i dont have a problem with that assuming people arent going to have sex is silly, we could give away free birth control all of it, id rather do that than public  funding of killing babies
 
 
bottom line  if you want to have sex and not have a baby the responsibility is yours to do everything you can to not have a child, but once you do you dont get to kill it...  
 
 
 
 
 
said the eugenics like Margaret Sanger and Adolf Hitler...  glad to see that progressivism  still holds onto those core beliefs 
 
"In fact after a little consideration they are willing to compromise and agree that the sickly and diseased and poverty stricken should not have offspring and the healthy might limit their number, if it is done through self control. There are two uses to be made of the sex act: generation and regeneration, or reproduction and love.
 
So far as the ways of nature can be understood by us, it is both our right and our duty, as intelligent beings, to control these for our own uses and our own good. This includes both the regulation of the number of children and the methods of regulation."
 
Margaret Sanger 1923
 

Most conservatives do not support those ideas.  I doubt you'll find one on here who will agree with you. 
 
I agree that everything possible should be done to prevent it but accidents happen.  A lot of women do not want to alter their lives in that manner.  I do not like it either but I sure as hell will never tell a person what they may or may not do with their own body.
 
Sanger?  Hitler?  lol

 

[Ms Tree]

those are seperate issues we are discussing the life of a person, you are talking about things that affect the life of that person after they are born, im not against any of those things on the merits of them by themselves 
 
id rather publicly fund birth control for those that cant afford it than to fund abortions...  

I think the issues are intricately linked.  These are all issues that go though a womans mind.  My wife said these were issues that she grappled with. 
 
good luck finding enough conservatives to actually do something.  Most seem to thiunk like Palin.  "Just say no".  As if that will ever happen.  Hell, neither her, nor two of her kids could say no.  Why should anyone else?

 

[PHXConx]

Most conservatives do not support those ideas.  I doubt you'll find one on here who will agree with you. 
 
I agree that everything possible should be done to prevent it but accidents happen.  A lot of women do not want to alter their lives in that manner.  I do not like it either but I sure as hell will never tell a person what they may or may not do with their own body.
 
Sanger?  Hitler?  lol

im a libertarian i dont care what the neocons think 
 
and you dont know who Margaret Sanger or adolf hitler is?  or are you confused on the eugenics part? 

 

[PHXConx]

I think the issues are intricately linked.  These are all issues that go though a womans mind.  My wife said these were issues that she grappled with. 
 
good luck finding enough conservatives to actually do something.  Most seem to thiunk like Palin.  "Just say no".  As if that will ever happen.  Hell, neither her, nor two of her kids could say no.  Why should anyone else?

the person being born wouldn't think so... but not giving them the freedom to live is the atrocity having someone already living determine that someone else doesn't get to live because its an inconvenience to them is sickening... 
 
im not focused on the neocons why are you? i dont vote because a so called conservative tells me thats how i should vote... why do you keep comparing me to them?  just because i agree on somethings with them doesnt mean i agree on everything with them, just like i agree with you on some  things that doesnt define me. thats the problem with party politics i have to bend my beliefs on several things to be associated with a party... im sure there are things the democrat party believes that you dont, 
 
once we stop defining ourselves by a national party platform the real changes in this republic can happen...  

 

[Ms Tree]

They are the ones preventing real changes that would actually reduce the number of abortions in this country.
 
Lol at the whole idea.

 

[Ms Tree]

the person being born wouldn't think so... but not giving them the freedom to live is the atrocity having someone already living determine that someone else doesn't get to live because its an inconvenience to them is sickening... 
 
im not focused on the neocons why are you? i dont vote because a so called conservative tells me thats how i should vote... why do you keep comparing me to them?  just because i agree on somethings with them doesnt mean i agree on everything with them, just like i agree with you on some  things that doesnt define me. thats the problem with party politics i have to bend my beliefs on several things to be associated with a party... im sure there are things the democrat party believes that you dont, 
 
once we stop defining ourselves by a national party platform the real changes in this republic can happen...  

OH well.  Not your body, not your choice.