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Obama's War on Women

Ms Tree said:
 So why is it the big government conservatives want to dictate how people conduct their private lives and what they can do with their body?
 
 
The baby's body is not the woman's body and moral people protect innocent life.
 
Ms Tree said:
Dictate the conversation? Not my fault you don't want to stay on topic because you have no argument. Another conservative who wants to stick his finger in the dike thinking that will some how solve the problem. So why is it the big government conservatives want to dictate how people conduct their private lives and what they can do with their body?

I never denied it in the first place.
Tree------ Let's get our facts straight, and avoid to rederic put out be to far left! ----- Big government today is not a result of the Conservatives. It hasn't been, for at least the last five and a half years! They are not the ones that mandate we buy a product that we may, or may not want! Or use the IRS to influence the outcome of a Presidential election! Or ignore, and manipulate, migration laws for political gain! Or Spy on it's citizens, in their everyday lives, or even members of Congress, or try and restrict our Constitutional right to bare arms, and on, and on!!!
 
MCI transplant said:
They are not the ones that mandate we buy a product that we may, or may not want! Or use the IRS to influence the outcome of a Presidential election! Or ignore, and manipulate, migration laws for political gain! Or Spy on it's citizens, in their everyday lives, or even members of Congress, and on, and on!!!
 
Bingo!
 
traderjake said:
The baby's body is not the woman's body and moral people protect innocent life.
That does not negate the fact that it is dependent on the mother. Mother needs to have absolute control over her body.
 
MCI transplant said:
Tree------ Let's get our facts straight, and avoid to rederic put out be to far left! ----- Big government today is not a result of the Conservatives. It hasn't been, for at least the last five and a half years! They are not the ones that mandate we buy a product that we may, or may not want! Or use the IRS to influence the outcome of a Presidential election! Or ignore, and manipulate, migration laws for political gain! Or Spy on it's citizens, in their everyday lives, or even members of Congress, or try and restrict our Constitutional right to bare arms, and on, and on!!!
Lol. That's opinion not fact. The Conservatives have been expanding government in the bed rooms for decades. They have been expanding the military industrial come for decades. The only difference between lib/con is the type of big government.
 
traderjake said:
The baby's body is not the woman's body and moral people protect innocent life.
Why does your 'moral' concern not start till after conception and end after birth?
 
Tree you're still living in the past! Obama has had five and a half years to force his form of Socialism on use, and look where it has got us! The world is falling apart around us and he doesn't have a clue on how to deal with it!------ He thinks he can stick his head in the sand and do nothing, and everything will be just peachy! ------ Well, I've got a message for him! Life in the real world just ain't like  that!
 
Tree, I've got a personal question for you! ------- I'm retired, and have all the time in the world to respond to people like you! What's your excuse? You work for a living? Stay at home Dad? It would seem you are spending more than your share of time on this forum, which is alright with me! ----- Just curious!
 
traderjake said:
Says who?
You have never said anything about ways to prevent the pregnancies or how to take care of the unwanted children. So what's your plan?
 
Ms Tree said:
You have never said anything about ways to prevent the pregnancies or how to take care of the unwanted children. So what's your plan?
wow unwanted children... you sound just like margaret sanger in the 20s and 30s thats scary...  
 
MCI transplant said:
Tree you're still living in the past! Obama has had five and a half years to force his form of Socialism on use, and look where it has got us! The world is falling apart around us and he doesn't have a clue on how to deal with it!------ He thinks he can stick his head in the sand and do nothing, and everything will be just peachy! ------ Well, I've got a message for him! Life in the real world just ain't like  that!
He did screw up with ACA. Should have gone with single payer like he wanted but he sold.out to the insurance companies. So the failure of ACA is definitely on him.
 
MCI transplant said:
Tree, I've got a personal question for you! ------- I'm retired, and have all the time in the world to respond to people like you! What's your excuse? You work for a living? Stay at home Dad? It would seem you are spending more than your share of time on this forum, which is alright with me! ----- Just curious!
I work. Full time. Post on my time off or on break like I am now.
 
PHXConx said:
wow unwanted children... you sound just like margaret sanger in the 20s and 30s thats scary...
Call it what ever you want. A woman who gets an abortion does not want the baby. What would you call it? A woman who puts a bad y up for adoption does not want it or can't keep it. What would you call it?

So what's your plan to stop unwanted pregnancies and what's your plan to take care of the children after they are born?
 
Ms Tree said:
Call it what ever you want. A woman who gets an abortion does not want the baby. What would you call it? A woman who puts a bad y up for adoption does not want it or can't keep it. What would you call it?

So what's your plan to stop unwanted pregnancies and what's your plan to take care of the children after they are born?
there are plenty of ways to prevent pregnancy waiting till after the fact is not the definition of prevention perhaps you have problem with that word... scrambling a babies brains and sucking it through a straw is not prevention... its horrific 
 
funny thing is that if someone killed a puppy in a similar fashion the so called prochoice people would lose their minds... oh its just an unwanted human no big deal best to deplete the surface population 
 

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