Oct 1st announcement.

[eolesen]

I fly with Trans Carib F/A's but they are way senior and it was so long ago, before my time. Tell me more about that transaction.
Thanks

It was relatively tiny by today's standards. Eight aircraft (six of which were immediately sold) and route authority into three new domestic destinations (STT, STX, and SJU) out of JFK & IAD, and three international destinations (PAP, CUR, AUA) via JFK and SJU. It's the first Caribbean destinations AA flew to, but hardly earth shattering...

Agree that the real announcement will be the BA/AA/IB joint venture going into effect, the markets being entered/exited by the respective carriers, and how reciprocity will work for mile accrual & awards.

 

[FWAAA]

Sometimes wikipedia is useful; the wiki page about Trans Caribbean contains this link to a 40-year old Time magazine article:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,878185,00.html

 

[MAH4546]

The announcement will be on the codeshare routes with British Airways and some other improvements, such as the ability to use AAdvantage miles to upgrade on BA/IB metal and a third free checked in bag for F/J passengers (aligning with BA).

There will be a route announcement in October (not the Mexico one that we got on Monday), but that might be closer to/on the same day as the 3Q earnings call. Expect five new European routes from JFK. There is also a new South America route from JFK and a new Europe route from MIA planned, but I think those might be held off.

 

[star power]

I heard today that RJET and AMR were in early talks about a JV for MQ. MQ to RJET with a CPA on the current MQ runs, and a ASA on selective non-current runs. RJET mainline fleet airbus, E90, E75, and E70 to AMR mainline fleet. The talk also was about a pass thru agreement ,which I neverheard of.

 

[737823]

I heard today that RJET and AMR were in early talks about a JV for MQ. MQ to RJET with a CPA on the current MQ runs, and a ASA on selective non-current runs. RJET mainline fleet airbus, E90, E75, and E70 to AMR mainline fleet. The talk also was about a pass thru agreement ,which I neverheard of.

I hope this comes to fruition or furthering the partnership with jetBlue. I'd love to see management find and use creative ways to side step the APA scope clause. If AA continues to contract, even if AA code isn't placed on B6 flights, if passengers receive mileage credit and baggage interline services what difference does it make? I'm flying jetBlue more and more recently and have come to appreciate the friendly crews, new clean aircraft, LiveTV and on-time performance. jetBlue has effectively replaced AA's domestic route structure here in BOS (minus DFW, JFK, LAX, LGA, MIA, ORD) and we have international to CDG, LHR, SDQ. AA's presence here is dwindling and I think management has decided for me to fly jetBlue and UA/CO more once merger is complete.

Josh

 

[Hopeful]

I hope this comes to fruition or furthering the partnership with jetBlue. I'd love to see management find and use creative ways to side step the APA scope clause. If AA continues to contract, even if AA code isn't placed on B6 flights, if passengers receive mileage credit and baggage interline services what difference does it make? I'm flying jetBlue more and more recently and have come to appreciate the friendly crews, new clean aircraft, LiveTV and on-time performance. jetBlue has effectively replaced AA's domestic route structure here in BOS (minus DFW, JFK, LAX, LGA, MIA, ORD) and we have international to CDG, LHR, SDQ. AA's presence here is dwindling and I think management has decided for me to fly jetBlue and UA/CO more once merger is complete.

Josh

BUH-BYE!

 

[s80dude]

So was the LAX-Shanghai news the big October 1st announcement. We were all hearing it was gonna be something really big..... that will teach me to listen to rumors. 😱

 

[Duke787]

So was the LAX-Shanhai news the big October 1st announcement. We were all hearing it was gonna be something really big..... that will teach me to listen to rumors. 😱

I "heard" that the announcement is going to be on the 5th or 6th................but who knows. Probably about more routes.

 

[BoeingBoy]

I fly with Trans Carib F/A's but they are way senior and it was so long ago, before my time. Tell me more about that transaction.

As eolesen said:

It's the first Caribbean destinations AA flew to

A merger of AA and B6 would bring NYC-Caribbean/Latin American/S America flying more than anything else, which is what Trans Carib brought to AA (Caribbean). Reno added primarily intra-western U.S. flying.

Jim

 

[MAH4546]

So was the LAX-Shanghai news the big October 1st announcement. We were all hearing it was gonna be something really big..... that will teach me to listen to rumors. 😱

No. The big October 1st announcement was the BA/AA/IB partnership.

There is an announcement set for October 6th regarding O'Hare and I am also hearing a new point-to-point trans-Atlantic route from Heathrow.

A JFK announcement should come later in the month, I suspect around third quarter earnings.

MIA announcement probably in November/December (I'm hearing BCN/ASU/COR), and DFW announcement then, as well (DFW-ICN, fingers crossed). Plus, probably another LAX announcement on some domestic flying.

Of course, it will be interesting to see exactly how this all comes into play given a long-haul fleet that is being increasingly used very tightly.

 

[star power]

I hope this comes to fruition or furthering the partnership with jetBlue. I'd love to see management find and use creative ways to side step the APA scope clause. If AA continues to contract, even if AA code isn't placed on B6 flights, if passengers receive mileage credit and baggage interline services what difference does it make? I'm flying jetBlue more and more recently and have come to appreciate the friendly crews, new clean aircraft, LiveTV and on-time performance. jetBlue has effectively replaced AA's domestic route structure here in BOS (minus DFW, JFK, LAX, LGA, MIA, ORD) and we have international to CDG, LHR, SDQ. AA's presence here is dwindling and I think management has decided for me to fly jetBlue and UA/CO more once merger is complete.

Josh

Just back from my junket, and the sweeping are reveling that AMR is close to a APA with RJET for F9,YX,and S5. RJET is in a MOU with AMR on a JV for a 50% APA of MQ with a ten 10 year CPA on MQ, YX current routes and a ASA on YX, S5 non-current route with UA,US, and DL.

DW

 

[MCI transplant]

Just back from my junket, and the sweeping are reveling that AMR is close to a APA with RJET for F9,YX,and S5. RJET is in a MOU with AMR on a JV for a 50% APA of MQ with a ten 10 year CPA on MQ, YX current routes and a ASA on YX, S5 non-current route with UA,US, and DL.

DW
:huh: ------- Would you like to translate that for those who don't speak that language!

 

[1AA]

Just back from my junket, and the sweeping are reveling that AMR is close to a APA with RJET for F9,YX,and S5. RJET is in a MOU with AMR on a JV for a 50% APA of MQ with a ten 10 year CPA on MQ, YX current routes and a ASA on YX, S5 non-current route with UA,US, and DL.

DW

Wow I know its morning but I can you please translate this James Bond 007 gibberish code to normal folks like me.

 

[Duke787]

I heard today that RJET and AMR were in early talks about a JV for MQ. MQ to RJET with a CPA on the current MQ runs, and a ASA on selective non-current runs. RJET mainline fleet airbus, E90, E75, and E70 to AMR mainline fleet. The talk also was about a pass thru agreement ,which I neverheard of.

What?

 

[Duke787]

Just back from my junket, and the sweeping are reveling that AMR is close to a APA with RJET for F9,YX,and S5. RJET is in a MOU with AMR on a JV for a 50% APA of MQ with a ten 10 year CPA on MQ, YX current routes and a ASA on YX, S5 non-current route with UA,US, and DL.

DW

?