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Pending Delta Layoffs

Who will get hit the hardest?

  • Mechanics

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  • Below Wing OP's

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  • Above Wing OP's

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  • Pilots

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  • Flight Attendants

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  • Tech OP's in General

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Beer Guzzler said:
Of the 9,000+ pending layoffs which group at Delta is going to get hit the hardest?
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BeerGuzzler...your gleeful tone towards bad events never ceases to amaze me. Could you wish for anything more than you seem to wish for DL's demise?
 
Beer Guzzler said:
Of the 9,000+ pending layoffs which group at Delta is going to get hit the hardest?
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The little guy, of course.
 
I doubt there will be many mechanics layed off. Too many are quiting. By the time they get around to laying off we might be short of mechanics.
 
I've noticed that since the poll started 50% of the voters have consistently selected the flight attendants as the group to be most hard hit.

Is that because you think they are overstaffed? Or, because you think they are the most vulnerable, being non-union?
 
BeerGuzzler...your gleeful tone towards bad events never ceases to amaze me. Could you wish for anything more than you seem to wish for DL's demise?


I am not "GLEEFUL" .. As a matter of fact I resigned from Delta last week and have moved away from the aviation industry. I wish everybody that decides to stay with Delta the best. It is a good company with good people.. I truly hope that somehow, someway Delta can return to profitability..

Delta will NEVER be what it once was. Since Delta models its pay, benefits and everything else on scaretran the 'old' Delta family attitude is dying..

I will leave it at that.. I wish everyone at Delta the best.
 
I doubt there will be many mechanics layed off. Too many are quiting. By the time they get around to laying off we might be short of mechanics.

The same thing is happening at Delta Technology. They announced that they were going to 'strategically outsource' parts of it. Shockingly, they are still hiring.

The problem is that DT is paying so low that the only people paying less are overseas outsourcers. anyone who bids for the development work (EDS) will have to subcontract most of it to India and Malaysia.

I'd say DT will get hit the hardest and it's not an option above. The organization has been hammered by two paycuts and the elimination of the incentive pay (which was used to bring most of the employees up to market level pay). Only the pilots have been hit harder in terms of percentage and monetary cuts.

Delta will most definitely outsource/lay off the help desk and the field IT support because those are easy to outsource. the quality of service will be crap but it will be cheaper. As I hinted above I think EDS will end up taking over the majority of the development work. EDS bought the Feld Group and many key executives he placed at DT when he was there have now been hired by EDS. Worldspan might end up with some of the work directly related to the reservations system. I can see only about 200 of what used to be close to 2000 people staying employed directly by the airline.
 
Guzzler,
where do you get your beer money from now? (what kind of work are you doing)

Don't you think that part of this whole outsourcing routine that is happening at all of the airlines is so that companies can justify laying off thousands of people? Since they know the service will never be decent, they will then turn around in a couple years, bring back the contracted work, and hire their own employees who will make a fraction of what they (or their predecessors) once made? You can't continue to run a business with contractors that can't speak the language or with quality that requires the job be redone time and time again in order to bring it up to standards.
 
FWIU a lot of people at Delta are laying off themselves and finding work elsewhere - for a lot more money. 😉
 
and ultimately those employees and DL are probably both better off. I'm sure part of DL's strategy is to put enough pressure on employees so that they do leave and as they go many of DL's legacy costs go also.
 
The mechanics that are leaving don't have much legacy cost. They are the guys that are as they see it on the bubble for a layoff. Most I know are in the bottom 2000 of the senority list. Some are topped out on the pay scale but many are not. Most don't have much of a vested defined benefit pension. The old plan was very back end loaded, so if you had less than say 20 years when they converted to cash balance your DB plan was very low. The guys that are leaving are the future. Most are getting out of the industry. The airlines are decimating the AMT ranks of the future. a good case is when DL closed the DFW hangar. Guys with 10-15 years took the layoff. Many now work for Verison as Fiber Optic Techs. I'll bet the same is true with ex mechanics at UAL and NW. Some are moving to the MRO's that are getting our outsourced work, but most are finding other fields.

I'm in the bottom 2000 at DL. Right now the rumors on the floor are that many are gone after the New Year. I really like what I do and I many stay in the industry if I get shown the door. Only because I might have the opportunity to work at an MRO near my hometown. For ATL the pay would suck, but for there it would be pretty good. If I elect to stay in ATL it would be a career change with no thought of going back to DL.
 
In terms of numbers, they've announce 2500 layoffs for In-Flight service alone. I haven't heard of any other group taking a bigger hit. However, we are a huge group. Incidentally, I am happy to say I am now a former DAL FA, having taken a voluntary furlough effective Dec. 1. :up:
 
I caught the last part of Oprah last night where she gave everyone some kind of laptop PC called a VAIO. With high speed, wireless internet, it allows you to video conference with your friends/colleagues like they do on the Jetsons. No special software, cumbersome wires and cameras. Easy as picking up the phone, only less expensive than a local phone call. This improvement in technology can only hurt air travel. Why fly to headquarters for a meeting when you can Vconference in from anywhere in the world? There goes the high paying business traveler.
 

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