BuffaloJoe
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They have a flight 257 schedule departing at 8:50pm. Is that basically a repositioning flight? I would think a PHL-LAX would work at 9pm before a PHX.
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soc-hpjester
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Its a regular mainline flight that operates 7 days a week.
I flew it the other night and it was pretty full. The problem is it's 12:30am by the time you get to PHX so you really can't connect to anywhere. LAX would have been smarter but like you said, it might a repo flight.
YVINTERN
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Nope it's a scheduled revenue flight...this aircraft is the first flight out of PHX back east in the morning.
http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus...p;x=12&y=12
Arrives at Gate A7
I'll track down the turn unless Jester finds it first.
http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus...p;x=12&y=12
Arrives at Gate A7
I'll track down the turn unless Jester finds it first.
soc-hpjester
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the wrap is this
403 phx/sfo
658 sfo/phl
257 phl/phx
403 phx/sfo
658 sfo/phl
257 phl/phx
BuffaloJoe
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OK Thanks, I was just curious, it seemed alittle odd, but I understand now.
Would like to add me two cents on this flight. Before US and HP merged and there where no on-line connections to anywhwere from PHX I seem to remember just about every US flight to PHX was full or near full, ESPECIALLY in winter. And while there are no conxs out of PHX there are plenty inbound to PHL so this flight might actually do okay.
Just my 2 cents
LGA777
Just my 2 cents
LGA777
Any employee in commercial aviation should know that a full flight doesn't mean a profitable one, in fact many times it's the opposite as it's doing so poorly it's being filled with very low fares. not commenting on PHL-PHX, just the "flights were so full" idea. It amazes me when flight attenedants will say I don't know why we pulled out of something like DAY-ERI or whatever, because "the flights were always full!"
YVINTERN
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Thats why those exact flight attendants ended up on furlough status right away...
Huh??? I hope I didn't understand you. Making a comment that shows a f/a know nothing about the real operations of the company has nothing to do with ending up on furlough.
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If the flights are that full and not making any money, maybe it would be wise to increase the price of a ticket?! Seems US will only fly the plane if every seat is occupied anyway.
:blink: Huh?
Furloughs are by seniority. Sadly, US had to furlough pretty much the entire "Wolf generation" of flight attendants hired in the late 90's and early 00's. Very few of them have returned, particularly after the MidAtlantic fiasco.
I don't think this is what you were alluding to, but one could certainly argue that the insulated nature of the US F/A group led to half of it's membership being furloughed, and having one of the most ridiculous contracts in the industry.
I challenge anyone to find a 25 year F/A at this company that's more industry savvy than an 8 year one... the more hardship you've had in your career, the more aware you become of your surroundings. Quiz a 7 year US (not America West) F/A on how the reserve systems are at other carriers, what thier contracts look like and how soon a line is held, or to name the US Airways Express carriers, or Star Alliance carriers, or what a scope clause is and how it's affected the industry, etc etc... then ask a senior mama, she can tell you that she likes the chocolate biscoffs better than the regular ones, then ask you if you SAP. One only has to look at the shrunken, defeated, and stagnant state the group's allowed itself to become, to come to the conclusion that it's filled with either completely ignorant people, or just plain apathy.
Anyway, I'm not saying that an entry level, customer service employee should understand yield management and the economics of airline pricing, but they should at least understand something as basic as full flight does not equal profitability.
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It was a badly implied joke that furloughed FAs had an opportunity to return to Wharton to understand revenue management and the semantics of yield management = ka ching...I'm having an off day.
