Pilot Recall Rate Less Than 20%

[Phoenix]

The company has just about transformed the airline into a monster Express carrier (all under the watchful eye of ALPA, AFA, Etc.), and there doesn't seem to be any plan on changing course (from the company or ALPA, et. al.). Its hard to imagine that 80% of pilots are passing on the opportunity to return to a "Mainine" job after all those years of skill and liscensing to get there. ... I know. Boo Hoo. B)

 

[A320 Driver]

The company has just about transformed the airline into a monster Express carrier (all under the watchful eye of ALPA, AFA, Etc.), and there doesn't seem to be any plan on changing course (from the company or ALPA, et. al.). Its hard to imagine that 80% of pilots are passing on the opportunity to return to a "Mainine" job after all those years of skill and liscensing to get there. ... I know. Boo Hoo. B)

Why would they want to come back as new hires. That's where Nic's got them.


A320 Driver B)

 

[lynyrdskynyrd]

Why would they want to come back as new hires. That's where Nic's got them.
A320 Driver B)

I thought that is what furloughed guys always returned as.

 

[Phoenix]

Why would they want to come back as new hires. That's where Nic's got them.
A320 Driver B)

Coming back as newhires, after having been hired back in the 80s and s90, would be a dream. This is not a "newhire" situation. If returning pilots would have the same work rules, pay, benefits, and retirement as existed 18 years ago then pilots would return.

Nicolau, and ALPA's complicity, is just one more insult in a litany too long to contemplate. ALPA wishes they could pin the blame all on him.

 

[ClueByFour]

Why would they want to come back as new hires. That's where Nic's got them.
A320 Driver B)

You mean, when they come back they will be junior, in the right seat, of the smallest equipment on the certificate with an open seat, right?

Sort of like if they were able to come back from a furlough a few years ago they'd have been junior, in the right seat, or the smallest equipment on the certificate?

What Nic does not get them is a vault past people who brought an actual kicking job to the merger.

Out here in the Real World (tm), this makes sense. Only within the bounds of an airline seniority integration (and even then, mostly in the eyes and minds of one side) would any other possible outcome make any sense...

 

[Phoenix]

You mean, when they come back they will be junior, in the right seat, of the smallest equipment on the certificate with an open seat, right?

News flash. Returning pilots are getting assigned to all planes to include the AB330. Presuming Nicolau is the reason pilots aren't returning is obtuse.

 

[767jetz]

Why would they want to come back as new hires. That's where Nic's got them.
A320 Driver B)

Come on now, A320 Driver. You know very well that is not what Nicolau got them. Nicolau had nothing to do with that. If you take Nicolau out of the picture, and assume USAirways survived without the merger, where would they have come back?

We both know the answer is, at the bottom... Just like a new hire, except at the payscale at which they left.

That is not what Nicolau got them. That is what working for USAir got them. They come back to the job where they left from.

 

[JetMonkey]

Its hard to imagine that 80% of pilots are passing on the opportunity to return to a "Mainine" job after all those years of skill and liscensing to get there. ... I know. Boo Hoo. B)

I don't find it hard to believe at all. Never mind the award, you really think most of those furloughes were waiting around for the phone to ring all these years? I believe the REAL reason is that they're better off staying where there at elsewhere. They're better positioned for an upgrade sooner with more pay. Why would they leave that to return to the bottom of another list?

 

[CaptainZitface]

Its hard to imagine that 80% of pilots are passing on the opportunity to return to a "Mainine" job after all those years of skill and liscensing to get there.

They've been furloughed for 4-6 years, that's a long time to be hanging out at MidAtlantic flying jungle-jets for peanuts. The smart ones left for greener pastures years ago.

Guess they prefer to keep their job as Captains / Senior FOs at Jetblue, Southwest, JAL or Emirates. Why give that all up for a pay-cut, a reduction in quality of life and the "joy" of working under LOA 93 with a bunch of ticked-off pilots?

 

[nostradamus]

They've been furloughed for 4-6 years, that's a long time to be hanging out at MidAtlantic flying jungle-jets for peanuts. The smart ones left for greener pastures years ago.

Guess they prefer to keep their job as Captains / Senior FOs at Jetblue, Southwest, JAL or Emirates. Why give that all up for a pay-cut, a reduction in quality of life and the "joy" of working under LOA 93 with a bunch of ticked-off pilots?

Ask him about the furlough after the next merger, they always dance around that subject.

 

[b737fo]

Ask him about the furlough after the next merger, they always dance around that subject.

"They"? Ask me then? What is your question about furlough after next merger?

 

[Furloughedagain]

I hate having people speak for me. I'm willing to share the reason why I do not intend to return.*

Simply stated, the risk of another furlough is not worth the reward.

With a Jan 99 DOH. I had expected to return to the bottom of the combined list. The airline's performance, along with external factors (energy prices, terror, LCC competition, age 65 retirement) paint a bleak picture of the airline's future.

True that even today US Airways senior Captain pay is significantly more than what I will be able to earn in my current position. Not enough more to risk another furlough.

Adding to that decision is the 26% higher cost of living in US Airways domiciles and/or a two leg commute.

Mike

*Full disclosure: I have not received my "take it or leave it" letter yet. I reserve the right to eat my words if US Airways takes steps to reverse their fortunes over the next few months, or if I succumb to shiny-jet-syndrome.

 

[nycbusdriver]

*Full disclosure: I have not received my "take it or leave it" letter yet. I reserve the right to eat my words if US Airways takes steps to reverse their fortunes over the next few months, or if I succumb to shiny-jet-syndrome.

Please take it. And on the first day of class, fax in a resignation letter. And then leave it.

If you're going to start over, start over at a real airline.

 

[AWA320]

Please take it. And on the first day of class, fax in a resignation letter. And then leave it.

If you're going to start over, start over at a real airline.

What an absolutly dumb thing to do and say however one must consider the source!!

 

[CaptBud330]

AWA320, you can't possibly know the screwing these guys got from ALPO and the company. It was disgraceful how they were treated. To accept recall and fax in a letter of resignation or be a no show is well deserved by the company. Revenge is sweet. If you don't like it, why don't you resign and let one of the furloughed guys have your seat big mouth!