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Heard the pilots are at the end of the rope, there seems to be alot of talk about about sick outs coming soon!!!
 
Never happen. The company played a masterful game of divide and conquer amongst these rugged individualists during the two BK's, and hoo-doo'ed them out of their pension and wages. All ALPA did was whine like a bunch of sissies.

Don't see that changing.
 
Heard the pilots are at the end of the rope, there seems to be alot of talk about about sick outs coming soon!!!

Truth...its been going on for weeks. Billboards, flying by the book etc. If we didn't have the weather and IT problem you'd see the effects.

Flying by the books means they only do their job never helping anyone else out. Flying by the books is expensive. The front end crew has found ways of cutting expenses by simple things that save fuel, help other employees communicating to others etc. When they fly by the books its costly. Every tiny repair is written up and they stop for repairs ie: pax reading light is out, h20 tank a quart low, things that we'd just take care of when the plane goes to the hanger is now written up and must have maintanance review, repair, report and write it up. Its costly to do since it involves so many people and usually causes flight delays.

We recently took a 2 hour delay on vegas for a 757. After calling out the mechanics and getting it all taken care off we taxied out only to return back to the gate for yet another issue. Again, we never mess with safety issues. But, flying by the book is very expensive. Look for no profit share in the coming months.

Pilots will be calling of there trips due to fatigue not sick. The May schedules are a mess with 2/4 hour breaks during their day they will plan on not doing that chit so it will be interesting. The best is yet to be. They are done taking it in the tail.
 
According the the mainline pilot's contract, without a Dr's excuse they are only allowed to use 60 hours of sick time per calendar year. This equates to roughly (3) 4 day trips per year of payed sick time. You think they are going to waste it on a sick out?
 
According the the mainline pilot's contract, without a Dr's excuse they are only allowed to use 60 hours of sick time per calendar year. This equates to roughly (3) 4 day trips per year of payed sick time. You think they are going to waste it on a sick out?

Their Dr. that performs their yearly physical is a pilot for usair ya think he'd have a problem with a note?
 
There is no sick out.

Pilots will continue to fly by the book and do their own job until an acceptable Joint Contract is achieved.

The operation has been so screwed up by weather and SHARES that the individual efforts of the pilots has been lost in the aftermath.
 
These "pilot disruptions" you are all talking about.... Should we expect them to be more destructive than what the company has implemented in the last few months? Just asking...

:mf_boff:
 
I have to say that while I see the pilots' point, any disruptions will only hurt them in the end. In the court of public opinion, such behavior would be attributed to them in all the press, and would only add insult to injury to those of us customers who rely on US to get us where we need to go.

In another thread, it states how stressed out everyone is for other reasons--weather issues, res migration, etc. To add a job action to the fray would cause massive booking away, costing millions in revenue, which could come back to bite all the employees in the future.

I have the utmost respect for the employees of US, and have made it known wherever I go--it's just that if this happens, it hurts the customer first--and I can tell you that if we leave, we won't be back.

Just something to ponder........
 
Truth...its been going on for weeks. Billboards, flying by the book etc. If we didn't have the weather and IT problem you'd see the effects.

Flying by the books means they only do their job never helping anyone else out. Flying by the books is expensive. The front end crew has found ways of cutting expenses by simple things that save fuel, help other employees communicating to others etc. When they fly by the books its costly. Every tiny repair is written up and they stop for repairs ie: pax reading light is out, h20 tank a quart low, things that we'd just take care of when the plane goes to the hanger is now written up and must have maintanance review, repair, report and write it up. Its costly to do since it involves so many people and usually causes flight delays.

We recently took a 2 hour delay on vegas for a 757. After calling out the mechanics and getting it all taken care off we taxied out only to return back to the gate for yet another issue. Again, we never mess with safety issues. But, flying by the book is very expensive. Look for no profit share in the coming months.

Pilots will be calling of there trips due to fatigue not sick. The May schedules are a mess with 2/4 hour breaks during their day they will plan on not doing that chit so it will be interesting. The best is yet to be. They are done taking it in the tail.
Well when you can't make your commute home after a four day you can blame your friendly pilots. Bunch of arrogant as*hol**. They never think of anyone but themselves. The rest have also suffered with cutbacks. The f/as shouldn't even offer a bottle of water to these motherfu**ers.
 
Art,

Unfortunately that is the only recourse Airline Employees have is to work exactly by the book as the law does not permit a strike.

The only way the company learns is when it costs them money.
 
Well when you can't make your commute home after a four day you can blame your friendly pilots. Bunch of arrogant as*hol**. They never think of anyone but themselves. The rest have also suffered with cutbacks. The f/as shouldn't even offer a bottle of water to these motherfu**ers.

Actually we support them in this. They are not easy to anger. They have been very supportive and creative, the background of growth for this airline. If not for them (it cost more to train them which gives them co. respect) we'd be paid less and works rule would be horrible. Yeah some of them are arrogant but, that's not the rule. They are caring family folk and well respected. Its taken them years to come to a boil. If you knew all that has been done you'd carry a picket sign for them. Don't assume things...its a sign of ignorance.
 
I work in a Ramp Tower in the East, you can use my sitename to narrow it down. In an average week I speak to several hundered Mainline pilots on the radio. Call me naive if you want but with very, very few exceptions the last few weeks the crews I have delt with have been friendly, proffesional, dedicated, with a slight touch of frustrated. For the first couple weeks of shares migration many flights had to wait for their weight and balance and in about 20 pct of the cases the flights had to pull out of their takeoff line, this increased the amount of interaction I have on the radio with crews, and really increased the potiental for "unhappy campers". Again patient, understanding, friendly, proffesional ! Just my two cents ! Thanks US Crews !

Respectfully

LGA777
 
Their Dr. that performs their yearly physical is a pilot for usair ya think he'd have a problem with a note?


#1. Not all USAirways pilots go to the same doctor. They live in many differant cities and states and they attended the FAA doctor of their choice.

#2. Captains are required to hold a 1st class medical which means they see their FAA dr every 6 months not once a year.

#3. First Officers are required to hold a 2nd class medical, which is the yearly one you know so much about. But most first officers at USAirways actually hold a 1st class medical because most, if not all of them were at one time a captain so they continue to stay current with a 1st class medical.

#4. The FAA doctor/pilot you speak about is a professional and would act as such when writing a note for a pilot who is sick. So in answer to your question, yes I do think he would have a problem giving a pilot a note when he wasn't actually sick. It's called being a professional.
 
No. There will be no disruptions. American's bought and paid for judge took care of that option.
However there is the "Just Do Your Job" campaign.
We don't call for final weight and balance close out, jetway drivers, pushback crews, parkers, lav service, dupe seats, etc. We pay multi-million dollar CEO's and VP's to make sure that is all taken care of.
We don't get paid enough to do our own job much less everybody elses.
We also fly strictly by the Flight Operations Manual and the respective Pilots Handbook.
We only fly our monthly block of time, no extra flying.
Any disruption of service is caused directly by your management.
 

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