I certainly hope we get our W-2 from "MAA" added in with when we were recalled. That would really be another blow to us that worked there. Only because West F/A now get the profit sharing. Not that one deserves it over the other...but..well Zarah...you know what I mean. Fingers crossed, but not counting on it. :down:
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EricLv2Fish
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Just a point not to lose sight of. Profit sharing was negotiated between the Unions and the Old US Airways management during BK. Management is not responsible how your elected representatives divy up the pie. If you think it's not fair spend your energy contacting your union rep.
Eric you are wrong.
It was not negotiated, the IAM had it forced upon them, same language as the other unions.
Then the BOD unilaterally changed it as they wanted to get more money for the investors, no union agreed to the profit sharing and its present language, the company used the Court to change all the CBAs after the membership had ratified them.
Don't let the facts get in your way!
It was not negotiated, the IAM had it forced upon them, same language as the other unions.
Then the BOD unilaterally changed it as they wanted to get more money for the investors, no union agreed to the profit sharing and its present language, the company used the Court to change all the CBAs after the membership had ratified them.
Don't let the facts get in your way!
Just to let you know, we here at US Airways don't always get what we negotiated. If that was true, we would already have a preferential bidding system in place. If that was true, US west would not be getting profit sharing. When you are dealing with US Airways and AFA, nothing is how it seems or negotiated. Just the fact Mamm.
A good observation. Labor only got what was negotiated by their unions. Some did a better job than others. The pilots were able to see the bigger picture, unlike the IAM. Lets not forget the "concession stand is closed".
CCY was fair based on the circumstances. Airways has a
much brighter future today than it did four years ago. I left CCY very proud quite proud of my accomplishments and the outcome. The company still has a long way to go...but it headed on the right flight plan.
The current employees (west/east) should be mindful that they would not be in the current situation (profit sharing) if it were not for the previous management team and labor sacrifices. We all had to make personal sacrifices during BK. It was not fun, but was essential to our survival. Sometimes that business acumen does pay off!
Your group had many chances to work with the company. I had a front row seat and know what took place with the negotiations. Your unions hard line stance only hurt the group. We offered more, but it was rejected. I will even say that a certain local afa union president also did more harm for her group. I won't mention names, but she loved talking to the media. We just ignored her most of the time.
I know where you were, I was in the room with you, your favorite term "NO VALUE".
We all knew you wanted to break the IAM cause you were a sore loser as we beat you in the Airbus Arbitration, your former lawyer at CCY told me the whole story of how you were so confident and told Bloch your version of the history of the IAM CBA at US.
Too bad your version was wrong and Chick Kavros and Vic's testimony was spot on and Mr Bloch ruled in our favor, took another trip through bankruptcy to get out of paying the damages.
Funny how your version does not actually match what happened.
Funny I did not see you comment on the company unilaterally changing the profit sharing with the court after the unions ratified it.
Why is that?
We all knew you wanted to break the IAM cause you were a sore loser as we beat you in the Airbus Arbitration, your former lawyer at CCY told me the whole story of how you were so confident and told Bloch your version of the history of the IAM CBA at US.
Too bad your version was wrong and Chick Kavros and Vic's testimony was spot on and Mr Bloch ruled in our favor, took another trip through bankruptcy to get out of paying the damages.
Funny how your version does not actually match what happened.
Funny I did not see you comment on the company unilaterally changing the profit sharing with the court after the unions ratified it.
Why is that?
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Truth- Your either delusional or full of it on this subject. I am not sure which. AFA is not perfect by a long shot but I know if the elections in Philadelphia go the way I think they will.Its going to make what you were referring to look like a Sunday school picnic. Changes will be made no matter who gets in from reading the campaign letters so far.
Tempe better brace themselves because the flight attendant group is fed up. They can ignore us this time all they want, we will just refuse them integration. See how they like the full "synergies" then. 😉
Tempe better brace themselves because the flight attendant group is fed up. They can ignore us this time all they want, we will just refuse them integration. See how they like the full "synergies" then. 😉
sky high states: EVERYONE lost major bucks, trust me, getting a $700.00 check on the 30th and wonder who can pay RENT or a MORTAGE on that. Two to three bills wipe that out instantly!!! The blockholders also had the system changed. Our flexibility was lost when you have to TOUCH both weekend days. You have a fri/sat/sun block and it's IMPOSSIBLE to trip improve.
Please dont mistake my "opinions" for lack of respect I have for reserves who year after year, never move forward and off it's system. BOTH blockholder and Reserves are suffering the fate of slashed wages and working conditions. Lets face it, this profit sharing is PEANUTS.
The corporate culture really hasnt changed at this company in many years. It's throwing a few bones on the ground and all the workers are fighting over them.
bother way, Pan Am had a reserve system where blockholders rotated onto reserve once a year so reserves could experience a schedule. Who's actively working on changing the reserve system? anyone? EAST? WEST?
only stating opinions.
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I still don't think that is ANY reason that the reserves should receive LESS of the profit sharing. It is total BS. I don't think blockholders having to touch or ANYTHING else that changed would be felt by reserves. Though it blows that we all work under a restructured agreement the reserves are the TRUE ones to suffer. If not than all the blockholders would be bidding into this wonderfull system. Bottom line is that we ALL GAVE and we are NOT benefitting from the profit equally. Again, THANKS MIKE. You surely have MY vote next time around. NOT! ! ! ! :down:
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Travelpro- Guess we should just mind who we put in office. 🙂 MIKE F has made his bed so let him LIE in it. I think at least 5 out of the 7 for President will correct any problems with the MEC. Change is coming and not a minute too soon.
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Absolutely Beachboy. There are a distinct few that I certainly have my eye on. I met one yesterday. VERY, VERY impressed. Just EVERYONE VOTE. PLEASE! ! ! !
First, let's understand why they had to go to weekend obligation. It was due to the fact they were running out of RSV's on weekends,because BH's flew primarily M-F. The company wasn't willing to hire more F/A's, to cover the weekend shortage. It the same way when every RSV flies on a holiday and we are short. Just wanted to clarify that for you. Sorry you have to work a weekend once in awhile. I almost feel bad for you.
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Again, see post #20.
sky high states: I work weekends mostly, so your clarification means nothing to me, personally.
only stating opinions.
