Pumpkin Orange Vests

[barbeetantrums]

You forgot listening to there IPOD the company gave to them

For the more serious career connects runner, there is "the zone" that they enter mentally and everything disappears but the next flight. They will run over their mother to get the bags to the next flight.

 

[Awa Contract]

They sent a bunch of them down us in Mx a couple of years ago - we used them to clean up oil spills. They never sent any more so we went back to the paper towels.

 

[Kev3188]

The vest is a pain in the a@@! They are to big normally and you cant work in it all the time it can catch on equipment and bags so you have to put it on and take it off for every flight.

Yep. So far, I've seen several caught in belt loaders, and at least one caught on (and broke off) a static wick on a CRJ, which wound up cancelling as a result.

They get really dirty

Our yellow ones at NW look "nice" for all of about a week.

Solution:

Make a work shirt that has a safty color in it and reflective color tape.

Well, NW uniforms have reflective striping already, and our coats are very reflective, but it didn't stop them from issuing us the monstrosities.

(Sidebar: Instead of comailing them to us at our respective stations, everyone receives their's via Fed Ex. An excellent $$$ saving solution. 🙄 )

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[LD3]

In the States your SIDA badge must be on your outer most garment above the waist or the FAA will ticket you.

Not only the FAA can cite you, the airport operation officers will cite you and yank your badge for 24 hrs...at least in CLT they will..

 

[Harry Callahan]

If a connects runner is reading his complex sheet and talking on his cellphone at the same time, no safety vest will save me from becoming ramp roadkill. It's not a question of if...but when... 🙁

+1 that is a big problem

 

[FWAAA]

Holy crap. The whining about reflective vests here is a little like hearing construction workers mitch and boan about having to wear hard hats on a jobsite. Not so sure I'd hire anyone who didn't want to wear it.

Speaking of hard hats - I returned from NRT yesterday and noticed that everyone there on the ramp appeared to be weaing a hard hat/helmet of some kind - plus reflective vests.

I've seen AA ramp personnel wearing these bright orange vests for many years. If I were down there - I'd want clothing in Neon Orange and Chartreuse plus enough flashing lights to look like a Christmas tree. The damned airplane's got flashing lights top, bottom and both sides; why not the humans?

 

[Spartan24]

QUOTE(barbeetantrums @ Sep 14 2006, 12:38 AM)

If a connects runner is reading his complex sheet and talking on his cellphone at the same time, no safety vest will save me from becoming ramp roadkill. It's not a question of if...but when...


+1 that is a big problem

I don't know about the rest of you, but here in LAS we now have to wear green vests if you are under 90 days. 80% of the West rampers are wearing them. (I guess you get what you pay for... :unsure: ) The rason we get these green vests is some US West ramper new-hire backed up a belt loader and hit a fueler on his stand. Now green vests for every new-hire. Like that would have stopped it!
Over on the East side, we take off our vests as soon as the plane is chocked. There are too many hazards wearing a "safety" vest.

 

[usramperTPA]

The problem is that the vest is a Pain in the ### to deal with when wearing rain gear or a parka. All of the jackets that we have issued, already have a reflective stipe on them anyway. If you can't spot a guy wearing a bright Yellow rain jacket, you should be travleing with a seeing eye dog to begin with.


I'd like to shed some light on a few of the points you just made in your post. First, If you are wearing a Company issued yellow rain parka with a reflective stripe, you need not wear a vest. Secondly, from my understanding, it is necessary to wear a reflective safety vest during R+D functions as a federal regulation. The color need not matter to the feds, just the fact that you wear one during R+D functions, the orange color is just the color that USAirways has chosen for us to use. Remember, a lot of the things we do for safety on the ramp, go hand in hand with some sort of federal aviation regulation.

 

[wings396]

As far as I know, the vest has nothing to do with any Federal regulations. I do know that if the company puts that vests are required in any of their manuals, then they must adhere to what is written. I have gone thru MANY FAA station inspections over the years, and they told me that they make sure that the employees are following the guidlines as they are written by the company in the books.
All that I can remember about these vests, is that the entire station was "Littered" with them from the breakrooms to the tugs. Like I said before, I worked the ramp long before these things were used, and NEVER had any safety issues with the crew knowing who was directing their A/C. 😉
Some company just hit the jackpot when they started selling these things, and all of the Airlines jumped on the bandwagon. As a few of the above posters have said, these stupid vests cause more safety issues than they prevent.

 

[700UW]

It is a company policy for reciept and dispatch, it is NOT an FAA requirement.

And to FWAA, guess you never worn one when hooking up a towbar to a 737 and having it get caught on the gear doors and end up gouging your back.

 

[wings396]

It is a company policy for reciept and dispatch, it is NOT an FAA requirement.

And to FWAA, guess you never worn one when hooking up a towbar to a 737 and having it get caught on the gear doors and end up gouging your back.

For ONCE, I agree with you 100% on this statement...

 

[N965VJ]

<SNIP> The damned airplane's got flashing lights top, bottom and both sides; why not the humans?

You put yours on first…

 

[757fixer]

It is a company policy for reciept and dispatch, it is NOT an FAA requirement.

And to FWAA, guess you never worn one when hooking up a towbar to a 737 and having it get caught on the gear doors and end up gouging your back.

Ah,not true.The FAR's state that the company must follow their FAA approved manuals.If the manual says you must wear a safety vest and you don't,you are in violation of the FAR's.

 

[wings396]

Ah,not true.The FAR's state that the company must follow their FAA approved manuals.If the manual says you must wear a safety vest and you don't,you are in violation of the FAR's.

Yes, but it is an FAA requirement because the company opted to have it written in their manuals. The manuals are FAA approved, but they are not written by the FAA for the Airlines. As I said above, the FAA told me that they ensure that policys in the manuals are being followed as they are written. If the FAA were writing the books, all Airlines would have the same set of books...It would make their jobs easier for certain. I'm sure that the FAA has certain guidelines that must be followed, but Goofy Orange vests are not one of them.

 

[LGA Fleet Service]

I'm sure that the FAA has certain guidelines that must be followed, but Goofy Orange vests are not one of them.

If goofy orange vests are in the FAA approved company operations manual they are.


I can't believe all this angst over a few ounces of cloth. :blink: