Racisists and Hypocrits

[airbud]

Who's the real racist?

Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100109/ap_on_...e/us_obama_reid

Teddy fumed that Clinton had said (about Obama), "A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee."
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/011...ddys_anger.html

 

[Garfield1966]

I think Reids comment was mildly racist but Clinton's was correct. Not so long ago, Obama would have relegated to a service position such as bus boy. With out knowing what the context of the conversation was I have no idea what point Clinton was trying to make. For all I know he could have been arguing that a black man who not long ago would have been getting us coffee does not have a chance at winning the POTUS. I would have agreed with him. I did not think that Obama had a chance until very close to the election. When Palin started to show her colors, then I thought Obama had a chance, but only a slim one at that.

 

[delldude]

Bill's statement was highly racist.............why do you think Ted slapped them in the face by endorsing Obama?

Reid is a idiot.

 

[Garfield1966]

Given that neither of us know the entire statement, the context or whether it is even true or not neither of us can say what it is with any level of certainty. Also, given Teds colorful past I am somewhat leery of believing anything he says without verification.

 

[airbud]

“What’s interesting here, is when Democrats get caught saying racist things, an apology is enough. If that had been [Senate Minority Leader] Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) saying that about an African-American candidate for president of the president of the United States, trust me, this chairman and the [Democratic National Committee] would be screaming for his head, very much as they were with Trent Lott.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31325.html

More democratic hypocrisy:

"Obama in '02: 'The Republican Party itself has to drive out Trent Lott"
http://weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-02-r...-out-trent-lott

Illinois Senator Barack Obama (D-13th), who hosted WVON's Cliff Kelley Show, challenged the Republican Party to repudiate Lott's remarks and to call for his resignation as senate leader.

"It seems to be that we can forgive a 100-year-old senator for some of the indiscretion of his youth, but, what is more difficult to forgive is the current president of the U.S. Senate (Lott) suggesting we had been better off if we had followed a segregationist path in this country after all of the battles and fights for civil rights and all the work that we still have to do," said Obama.

He said: "The Republican Party itself has to drive out Trent Lott. If they have to stand for something, they have to stand up and say this is not the person we want representing our party."

 

[southwind]

The Demorats aren't going to make Reid go anywhere, until they pass the obomination known as Obama-care ! :down:

BTW ...........Anyone know when I can view the bi-partisan discussions, concerning Obama-care, on C-span ?

 

[joanne]

Mr/Ms southwind,

Have you ever taken a moment out of you busy day(s) to ask yourself why you're always using black faces, and or Monkeys in your messages ?

Stop and think about it for a moment, really !

I believe it's called Subliminal in your case.

 

[delldude]

Mr/Ms southwind,

Have you ever taken a moment out of you busy day(s) to ask yourself why you're always using black faces, and or Monkeys in your messages ?

Stop and think about it for a moment, really !

I believe it's called Subliminal in your case.

How's el chimpo these days??

 

[southwind]

Mr/Ms southwind,

Have you ever taken a moment out of you busy day(s) to ask yourself why you're always using black faces, and or Monkeys in your messages ?

Stop and think about it for a moment, really !

I believe it's called Subliminal in your case.

#1. I happen to like my avatar and anyone who takes offense to it has issues and should seek immediate help!

#2. Would you rather me photo-shop Nobamas mug, so he looks white ? :blink:

#3 By your post above, your proving what most people already know, Liberal Demorats are the first to look for ANY reason to throw the race card around, but when they're playing the role of racist, it's all cool..................i.e. REID!

 

[joanne]

#1. I happen to like my avatar and anyone who takes offense to it has issues and should seek immediate help!

#2. Would you rather me photo-shop Nobamas mug, so he looks white ? :blink:

#3 By your post above, your proving what most people already know, Liberal Demorats are the first to look for ANY reason to throw the race card around, but when they're playing the role of racist, it's all cool..................i.e. REID!

You certainly have the right to do as you please on this forum, so long as you(and everyone else plays by the rules)

But I stand by my original reply to you.
Your answer ( # 1 ), is what scares me.

I submit, it Should concern you as well !

 

[joanne]

How's el chimpo these days??

I'm sorry, but I don't understand your meaning..(el-chimpo), unless your making the point that the (slang) referes to a monkey.

 

[southwind]

You certainly have the right to do as you please on this forum, so long as you(and everyone else plays by the rules)

But I stand by my original reply to you.
Your answer ( # 1 ), is what scares me.

I submit, it Should concern you as well !

Gee , thanks ! Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy, knowing I have the right to do as I please, within forum rules, on this forum!

Surely your not insinuating that I, being an Irish,English,Native Indian..........American, can't enjoy a picture of a monkee, are you ? :blink:

If so, I stand my my previous statement, "You have issues and you can get help for those issues !

 

[Veritas]

I think Reids comment was mildly racist but Clinton's was correct. Not so long ago, Obama would have relegated to a service position such as bus boy. With out knowing what the context of the conversation was I have no idea what point Clinton was trying to make. For all I know he could have been arguing that a black man who not long ago would have been getting us coffee does not have a chance at winning the POTUS. I would have agreed with him. I did not think that Obama had a chance until very close to the election. When Palin started to show her colors, then I thought Obama had a chance, but only a slim one at that.

Reid was only stating the obvious, however inartfully, as Sandy Banks wrote in the Los Angeles Times:

Obama's appearance and avoidance of "Negro dialect" -- except when reaching out to blacks -- allowed white voters to feel comfortable with his politics and his intellect. He seemed more like them than like Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson; less threatening, more like a guy you'd have over for dinner.

 

[eolesen]

My ancestors came from northern Europe 50 years after the end of slavery in the US. That's probably true for well over 70% of all whites in the US.

Maybe one of you affirmative action apologists can explain why I've been at such a quota disadvantage since birth for something a very small number of elitists did some 200 years before my ancestors applied for US citizenship? Personally, I have no problem getting a job on my own abilities. I don't need any handicapping to help me along. Ooops. Handicapping is probably a bad word now, too...

More importantly, can one of the apologists explain to me why someone who emmigrated from Kenya, Somolia, Ethiopia, etc. some 150 years after the end of slavery should get to jump to the head of the line?

My grandparents and great grandparents came steerage and third class, and didn't know what luxury was. My grandfather dug subway tunnels and farmed. My great grandparents were white sharecroppers. We had to work for what we attained. That's the way it was supposed to work in America if I recall.

If questioning why doors are being opened for someone else based only on their race or ethnic background is your definition of racist and bigotry, then sign me up. I'm going to question it until I'm in one of those protected classes I keep hearing about....

How's el chimpo these days??

Funny how it was OK to call Bush a "smirking chimp" whenever it was convenient, but the first reference of a primate to the current president is bigotry...

 

[Garfield1966]

You really need to stick to arguing about unions and corporate policy.

I am sure you are aware that segregation was the law of the land into the 60's. By the way, that's the 1960's not the 1860's Not that it is an excuse or justification, but white were enjoying AA for the last 200 years in the Americas with nary a complaint from anyone, at least not anyone who counted.

I should think you would not have a problem getting a job on your won merits. Unfortunately there are parts of this country where people who are not white seem to be at a disadvantage. I have a friend her in TX who is Mexican. He has a new Jag. He gets pulled over about 1 or two times a months for being a Mexican in a Jag. I thought he was full of crap till we were driving one night and he got pulled over. Did not get a ticket. Cop wanted to see proof of ownership.

Let me know when someone in your family was claimed as property to be bought and sold like a side of beef. Let me know when one of your ancestors can claim that they were not permitted to drink out of the same fountain, sit in what ever seat they wanted to on a bus, got o what ever school they wanted too, eat at what ever dinner they wanted too, fight next to what ever soldier they wanted to in the name of THEIR OWN COUNTRY of which they were a CITIZEN OF. Let me know when they can lay claim with being labeled as biologically inferior to others by 'science' or that they cannot marry the person of their choice.

I do not think AA is the answer. I think education is. The schools need to be overhauled so that ever one gets a equal chance. We need to figure out a way to eliminate the economic divisions that have replaced the racial divisions along similar lines. A little over 60 years have passed since blacks were legally given equal rights to whites. While the legal change was at the stroke of a pen, the change in society was/is slower.

My folks came over on the ship as well. Did not speak a lick of American and had $10 bucks to their name combined. They busted their buts to get where they are. I cannot imagine how much harder it would have been had they been black. Look what the Red Tails had to do to get what they had. And they were Americans citizens.

Finally, there is a difference between responsibility and guilt. I am not guilty of the crimes committed by my fore fathers. While I am only a first generation American, I do consider my self responsible for my forefathers actions, both the good and the bad. American is responsible for the actions taken against the Native Americans, the Japanese Americans and the black Americans in this country.

To compare what your ancestors went through as whites to what a black Americans ancestors went through as property of whites and second class citizens compared to whites is hollow and disingenuous. Complain all you want about AA. I might even agree with you on a few issues. But you and I will never know what it is like to have people cross the street to avoid you simply because of your skin color. You and I will never know what it is like to be pulled over driving a Jag simply because you look like you don't fit.

And no, it's not OK to call Bush a chimp. Juvenile delinquents who have the education of a 1st grader do that. I have/had numerous issues with Bush but I use his name. To do other wise speaks volumes about the speaker and their argument.