RAH in advanced talks for 175's.

[ASH]

CEO Brian Bedford of Republic Airways Holding company has stated that they have been engaged in talks with US Airways to reduce their 50 seat capacity down to 10 airframes in exchange for the EMB-175 to be operated in it's place ( about 20 175's).

Sounds plausible, any thoughts?

 

[BoeingBoy]

Certainly plausible. As I recall, the Emb-175 fits within the limits contained in the ALPA transition agreement - maximum seating capacity of 88 seats (or up to 90 seats if there are no first class seats) and/or certificated maximum take off weight of up to 90,000 pounds. So the 175's, just like the CRJ-900's, can be flown by affiliates.

Jim

 

[ringmaruf]

CEO Brian Bedford of Republic Airways Holding company has stated that they have been engaged in talks with US Airways to reduce their 50 seat capacity down to 10 airframes in exchange for the EMB-175 to be operated in it's place ( about 20 175's).

Sounds plausible, any thoughts?

Republic ordering them? Certainly plausible. Tempe letting them fly as USX? Quite plausible. Republic operating them competently? Not so much. 😛 :down:

They can't even staff their little 170 operation, but they still want MORE, MORE, MORE.

 

[FCYTravis]

How many 50-seaters does Chautauqua have with US? 20 or so?

 

[flyingcat]

From a fleet perspective we have too many 50 seaters. We need more aircraft in the 75 to 100 range to better service many stations.

 

[Furloughedagain]

From a fleet perspective we have too many 50 seaters. We need more aircraft in the 75 to 100 range to better service many stations.

Remember the good ol' days when USAir HAD an airplane that fit that need -- and it was even flown by US Airways own employees? (rather than outsourced to the lowest bidder)

DC9, F100, F28, BAe146, Bac111 ...

 

[EMBFA]

Outsourcing mainline jobs: a few dollars.
Pissing off your customers: millions

Erasing all goodwill of USAirways east employees and killing any beginning of morale: Immeasurable

 

[PhillyAir5]

As a customer, (and a very happy customer), I think it would be a tremendous advantage to see the larger aircraft (E170-E175) replace the smaller 50 seat planes. I know I'm not alone in this.

 

[EMBFA]

As a customer, (and a very happy customer), I think it would be a tremendous advantage to see the larger aircraft (E170-E175) replace the smaller 50 seat planes. I know I'm not alone in this.

it doesnt mean your route on a 50 seater becomes an emb... it means the 50 seat route just gets operated by someone elses 50 seater and the rp embs replace 737 routes... with republics unprofessional employees and no FC. although thats if they fly they cancelled 15 flights today.
if this happens :down: to doug parker he's just like the rest. if thats the case maybe we should make just as much effort for him as repubics exployees do---none!!!!!!!!!

 

[kid5mule]

it doesnt mean your route on a 50 seater becomes an emb... it means the 50 seat route just gets operated by someone elses 50 seater and the rp embs replace 737 routes... with republics unprofessional employees and no FC. although thats if they fly they cancelled 15 flights today.
if this happens :down: to doug parker he's just like the rest. if thats the case maybe we should make just as much effort for him as repubics exployees do---none!!!!!!!!!

During July of 2000 US Airways employed 5580 pilots, the bid closing for Aug 2006 show a staffing level of 2480, a reduction of another 27 positions for August 2006.
With the lowest pay scale of any airline we continue to downsize the mainline and outsource more jobs. A first year Captain at LUV makes $42.00 an hour more than a 25 year Captain at LCC, (LUV is profitible, LCC-?)Wages and benefits are not the sole cause of unprofitable companies.

We have express flights out of CLT that run a load factors of over 90% resulting in bags being left behind, oversells with revenue going to other carriers and a customer satisfaction that is in the tank. Business passenger don't want to ride 2 1/2 hours in an Rj any where and arrive without their "stuff". Does Parker understand that we are in a "service" industry and if he does why does he continue to expand he problem by downsizing the mainline and contracting more rj's?

Has anyone noticed that the PAWOB (passengers arriving without bags) figures have disappeared. "If we don't talk about it, it will go away!!!!!!!! The problem is being blamed on PHL but I think that the weight issues with the Rj's is a bigger factor with late bags at all stations. So why do we want more Rj's.

Parker states that the "new" pilot contract must be cost neutral yet he and his boys were the top paid execs of 2005. (ref AIRLINE EXEC PAY this forum). Works for him.

I think we all better step back and look at what is going on with the airline and more importantly with our jobs and benefits or the lack of the same. Our sacrifices haven't secured jobs. Personally, I am very curious about the future of the main line. What are Parker and "consultant" Gerrod Glass really up to????????

 

[autofixer]

We KNOW what they are up to!!! Glass has a record at LCC.

 

[foreright]

If you're not happy flood Customer relations

Save your anger and direct at those who make these decisions.

Republic is an absolute joke...I feel like i am in jr high working there. I have worked for PSA,mainline,midway,midatlanic,and now republic in my ten year US journey, and by far RPA is the worst. Its very hard to describe, you just have to live it. I get a call one every single day off begging for me to fly as they are short capts, fos, and fas. The FAs are the most unprofessional group i have ever worked with...Truthfully I would hate to see any express carrier get a single jet as all the flying should be flown by mainline.

 

[Rico]

The "new" LCC...

Same as the old boss. 🙄

I am betting that they will go for this stupid idea. Because they see no other way to get rid of the far worse EMB-145's aircraft anytime soon.

Although I am a big fan of getting rid of the Emb-145's in anyway possible, I dread the results of any ioncrease to what has been a pathetic operation.

The other reason I have a beef with this is that it increases the likelyhood that fewer E-190's will be ordered, which would work far better for us than the E-175.

The E-170's have a niche in DCA, but the E-175 does not get any slot exemption there, and has fewer seats for the same costs (if not more than) the E-190.

There are real advantages to the E-170, but none with the E-175. If anything it would be smarter to let them have additional E-170's in return for parking 145's, not allowing them to operate less useful 175's.

 

[Flying Titan]

Rico -
Well stated. However, there may be something in the works at LGA which would make the 175s make sense. Slot talks are underway regarding LGA. New slot regime could be in place at the start of '07. Right now, there is a mish-mash of commuter slot levels there. US is pushing to have them changed. Perhaps US mgmt. has a sense of where this is going and is actually trying to get ahead of the curve for any changes that would allow them to fly bigger RJs into LGA. No inside information, just a guess, but it could be the reason US would be talking about 175s.

 

[Rico]

Rico -
Well stated. However, there may be something in the works at LGA which would make the 175s make sense. Slot talks are underway regarding LGA. New slot regime could be in place at the start of '07. Right now, there is a mish-mash of commuter slot levels there. US is pushing to have them changed. Perhaps US mgmt. has a sense of where this is going and is actually trying to get ahead of the curve for any changes that would allow them to fly bigger RJs into LGA. No inside information, just a guess, but it could be the reason US would be talking about 175s.

Still not a good idea, as 170's could be used in both DCA and LGA, instead of just one focus city.

Anyways, this is all a bunch of crap. IMO All RAH wants to do is move the E-145's over to Continental to replace XJT flying. Why not just offer to let em out of the agreement with US, and then replace those aircraft with DHC-8/400's at PDT.

Replace the 145's with something quieter, roomier, just as fast on most routes, twice as much seating/payload, and half the operating costs...

Oh, and we get to keep all the profit instead of some outside company...

THAT would make sense.

RAH is only thinking of what's best for RAH, not US Airways. If they want to take their 145's elsewhere, let em, but we should not have to give em something in return (if they want to leave anyways).