Remember this in 2005? Union leaders bad or good?

[700UW]

Wow, there is one (probably a few other) successful unionized companies out there so cause and effect states that unions must be great!

700 is that your SAT score?

There are many succesfull companies that are unionized, but your blind hatred stops you from actually learning.

And like I said yesterday.

1. Quit your job at US, cause the unions saved the company four times since 1992.

2. Give up your health insurance, wages law protections and OSHA protections, since unions were instrumental in getting those laws passed.

3. Dont ever use First Responders, or most phone or cell companies, they are unionized.

4. Make sure you dont buy a car that is union made.

5. Many of the items you purchase at a grocery store are union made, so stop eating.

6. Better not fly US as the pilots that fly the plane are unionized, the FAs that take care of the passengers and their safety are unionized, the mechanics that maintain the planes are unionized, the rampers who load and unload your plane is unionized as well as the CSA who check you in.

And your lame attempt at an insult once again shows you lack of maturity, and understanding of how things work and why they are the way they are.

 

[UPNAWAY]

And you completely ignored my comment that most national union leaders are communist or at least socialist and you apperently share their vision for America, or do you? You or correct a lot of things are still unionized but that number will only get smaller and luckily our grandkids probabaly will not have to deal with them at all. Again 700 you are on the wrong side of history. There is a very good reason unions have died in the private sector and it is the unions themselves.

 

[700UW]

Please show me where they are members of the Communist or Socialist parties, you cant cause your lying and trying to degrade people who are out to make workers lives better.

And we can just show the Union Leadership of the Unions at US.

I am waiting!

 

[UPNAWAY]

700, we don’t live in a static world. Because something has done good things doesn’t mean it still does, the past doesn’t justify the future indefinitely.
Why do you think Jimmy Hoffa called for a War yesterday? To save government jobs, to stop any serious cuts to government, which everyone but Keynesian fools agree needs to be cut dramatically. And go to youtube and watch almost any union leader speech and it is straight from the communist manifesto, read meat for the politburo crowed.

 

[flybynite]

In honor of the Labor Day holiday, I thought I'd add a few quotes.

Labor is prior to and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital and deserves much higher consideration. -
Abraham Lincoln

All that serves labor serves the nation. All that harms is treason. If a man tells you he trusts America, yet fears labor, he is a fool. There is no America without labor, and to fleece the one is to rob the other.-
Abraham Lincoln

The labor movement means just this. It is the last noble protest of the American people against the power of incorporated wealth.-
Wendell Phillips

The only effective answer to organized greed is organized labor.-
Thomas Donahue
🙂

 

[700UW]

You called them communists and socialist, either prove it or tell the board you made it up and its all lies.

But those of us who really know what is going on and took the time to educate ourselves know the answer all ready.

Your blind hatred and lack of knowledge and truth even when the facts are presented to you tells the board all about your lack of moral character.

Sounds like a significant other who hurt you must have been in a union, your the poster child for union haters.

Sad, very sad.

 

[Glucose Intolerant]

"All that serves labor serves the nation. All that harms is treason. If a man tells you he trusts America, yet fears labor, he is a fool. There is no America without labor, and to fleece the one is to rob the other."

Abraham Lincoln

Your not actually saying the father of the Republican party (when they actually were sane) actually made this treasonous quote are you? Say it's not so - you obviously must be mistaken.

My Gosh what would "Mama Grizzly" and the rest of the party of the insane say about the President's quote?

Probably the standard rhetorical retort "President Lincoln must be a socialist or a communist" or "the President doesn't believe in our idiotic group think - therefore he must be a threat to American free-market values."

Then again Lincoln's intellect far surpassed that of any current day politician.

Well, I have another quote for the pro-business anti-union crowd: "Those that tend to ignore history are doomed to repeat it".

 

[usfliboi]

Well, I have another quote for the pro-business anti-union crowd: "Those that tend to ignore history are doomed to repeat it".
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I have an idea...On one side lets make a list of deeply unionized companies that have sustained a profit year over year for the last 20 years. On the right side a list of non unionized companies that have sustained a year over year profit. The union would have to have been in all areas of the company . I gotta feeling the left side is gonna be a small area lol!

I would tend to agree with your quote above. Just in a different way!

 

[flybynite]

I have an idea...On one side lets make a list of deeply unionized companies that have sustained a profit year over year for the last 20 years. On the right side a list of non unionized companies that have sustained a year over year profit. The union would have to have been in all areas of the company . I gotta feeling the left side is gonna be a small area lol!

I would tend to agree with your quote above. Just in a different way!
[/quote]


Oh for Pete's sake! Now you're sounding like one of those "old plantation owners"..."we can't survive without slave labor..."

Well lets see about those "deeply unionized" companies........

AT&T ( Ma Belle ) and all of it's offshoots

Boeing

Southwest!!

Verizon

Safeway


In fact, I don't have all day long to figure this one out for you. There are millions of union workers all over the spectrum that are holding the line for all of us.

If you enjoy paid vacation....the unions fought for it.....

If you have paid sick time....the unions fought for it....

If you have a 40 hour work week....the unions fought for it....

If you have a pension plan...the unions fought for it....

If you have Family Medical Leave...the unions fought for it....

The list goes on and on.

In fact, if it were not for the unions....you wouldn't have any of those benefits.


😉

 

[UPNAWAY]

Labor and unions are two completely different issues. And modern unions are as much anti labor as they are pro big government.

 

[700UW]

They are called labor unions!

And once again, I am asking you to provide proof of your accusations of union leaders are communist and socialist.

You have had all day to answer.

Guess it just a typical lie, like usual.

Your not even worthy of debating, cause you dont know anything and refuse to learn the truth.

 

[flybynite]

Labor and unions are two completely different issues. And modern unions are as much anti labor as they are pro big government.

Whew...you need to lay off the Crown...big boy.

 

[UPNAWAY]

700, Sara Palin has your back!

Welcome, Union Brothers and Sisters

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150285058673435

 

[Glucose Intolerant]

I have an idea...On one side lets make a list of deeply unionized companies that have sustained a profit year over year for the last 20 years. On the right side a list of non unionized companies that have sustained a year over year profit. The union would have to have been in all areas of the company . I gotta feeling the left side is gonna be a small area lol!

OK - show me a list of publicly held companies........union vs. non union.
Prove your hypothesis.

Or is this just "probable...... but not entirely factual" statements regurgitated after watching TV?

I am thoroughly astounded why you praise (or would want to work for - "WORK FOR" being the operative words) companies being non-union or anti-labor just so they can keep costs artificially low at the expense of their employees benefits and pay. Wouldn't it be better for everyone involved to achieve those goals through innovation and employee productivity? Disgruntled employees aren't productive ones. Is that how SWA kicked every US airline to the curb - keeping the unions out and paying their employees the least of any competitor?

I "gotta" feeling again - you got NADA - but can't wait to see what you come up with.

 

[UPNAWAY]

More union infighting.

Do your professional really want to be associated with these thugs?

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2011/09/ilwu-longshoremen-protest-longview.html