Republic 170 In Phl Today

[Light Years]

I am just interested to know who told the ramp and gate agents at MAA to work these Republic flights? If a f/a at Republic gets sick in phl...you are not gonna see us going over there flying it..or boarding it...STOP THE MADNESS!!!! What is going on? Where are the hired Repulic/Express workers? You are not Express MAA employees...THESE A/C ARE NOW EXPRESS!!! Are you people blind? I can not beleive this is going on???

[post="296851"][/post]​

MidAtlantic agents are supposed to operate "MidAtlantic" flights. Not mainline, not Express. It must be in thier contract that they are MAA specific, if not, why wouldn't Express (Piedmont or PSA) have handled them from the beginning?

And what about the Piedmont ground employees? They exclusively handle ALL Express flights in PHL, excluding MAA. If an MAA agent handles a Republic aircraft, aren't they violating Piedmont as well?

I'm surprised at the agents who went ahead and did it... do they not know that this is why they are losing thier jobs? They don't check-in and load Dash 8s or 737s, why should they handle another airline's flights? Especially one that is flying in violation of your co-workers contracts?

MAA has a good little crew in PHL and it would really surprise me that they don't understand all this.

And if you are furloughed USFA flying for CHQ, if you are in the Republic part of it, you should be ashamed. Hopefully you plan on staying there and not returning to US. F/As have long memories and love to talk.

 

[Capt Morgan]

That aircraft operating on USAirways routes flying USAirways revenue, is a violation of the J4J provisions of the AAA Pilots Working Agreement.

Think ALPA will do anything about it?? Me either........
ALL OR NONE

SH

[post="296570"][/post]​

Not a violation of J4J when only two pilots accepted the bid to fly this aircraft. The bid was there. No one took it, remember. "All or None"

 

[700UW]

Piedmont's ramp agents are non-union, the company can have them work any express flight they want.

MDA's ramp is IAM and the company can use them to work MDA and other express carriers.

 

[ringmaruf]

Not a violation of J4J when only two pilots accepted the bid to fly this aircraft. The bid was there. No one took it, remember. "All or None"

[post="296924"][/post]​

It certainly is a violation of J4J. If Republic wants to pretend this is J4J flying, they should have offered a position to the entire APL, not just the MDA pilot list.

Heck, I'm a customer, and I know that the pilot contract is being violated. Why doesn't ALPA care?

 

[Capt Morgan]

Heck, I'm a customer, and I know that the pilot contract is being violated. Why doesn't ALPA care?

[post="296934"][/post]​

Then stop buying tickets. If you know and care then don't do business with a company that operates like this. Please. Please. Please.

 

[Light Years]

See how the contracted help talks to our customers? They don't care because our customers don't affect THIER livelihood.

 

[Capt Morgan]

See how the contracted help talks to our customers? They don't care because our customers don't affect THIER livelihood.

[post="296942"][/post]​

Only half true. I have had the benefit of working in many different corprate environments. I am sorry if it hurts you to hear that USAirways is by far the worst. Both from the employee and the customer stand point. You stand to gain a great deal if the culture of America West takes over for the current culture. They have, in my experience, both happier workers and customers. They also do not have the culture of hatred between the workers, the management and the customer that I see almost daily at USAirways.

I am also sorry if you take offence at my attempt to encourage a consumer to buy with their conscience. It just may hurt USAirways even more if the consumer looked at the relations between management and labor, but if that is the kick in the ass this industry needs then so be it.

 

[Light Years]

Only half true.  I have had the benefit of working in many different corprate environments.  I am sorry if it hurts you to hear that USAirways is by far the worst. 

[post="296958"][/post]​

Ever wonder if it's just the way people relate to people like you?

Again, you don't work there, so how do you know what our culture is? You're basically a replacement worker, so maybe that hatred is all you see.

Have a good night. 😉

 

[Capt Morgan]

Ever wonder if it's just the way people relate to people like you?

Again, you don't work there, so how do you know what our culture is? You're basically a replacement worker, so maybe that hatred is all you see.

Have a good night. 😉

[post="296961"][/post]​

You don't pay attention do you? I am not attacking you. However, I will point out again that I have worked in the environment of US Air, TWA, America West, American, Delta, United and USAirways. I say again, the attitude at USAirways, much like that which you just displayed is by far the worst working environment of them all. Personally, I feel that the current situation is a result of that attitude. America West stands to lose too much if the culture and attitude of USAirways continues and destroys their culture. Tell me again, how many other airlines have you worked with?

 

[CHQDRVR]

Ever wonder if it's just the way people relate to people like you?

Again, you don't work there, so how do you know what our culture is? You're basically a replacement worker, so maybe that hatred is all you see.

Have a good night. 😉

[post="296961"][/post]​

Capt. Morgan has first-hand knowledge of the work environment both at mainline and MDA.

Rather shortsighted to say we don't care about the customers just because we work for a contractor. RAH's current business with US comprises 33 percent of the 145 flying and anywhere from 4-33 percent of the 170 flying. In my crew base almost 80 percent of my trips are US code, which pretty much guarantees a closure if US is not successful or we lose that business.

 

[ringmaruf]

Then stop buying tickets. If you know and care then don't do business with a company that operates like this. Please. Please. Please.

[post="296938"][/post]​

Don't worry. Hell will freeze before I step on a Republic-operated plane.

Only half true. I have had the benefit of working in many different corprate environments. I am sorry if it hurts you to hear that USAirways is by far the worst. Both from the employee and the customer stand point. You stand to gain a great deal if the culture of America West takes over for the current culture. They have, in my experience, both happier workers and customers. They also do not have the culture of hatred between the workers, the management and the customer that I see almost daily at USAirways.

I am also sorry if you take offence at my attempt to encourage a consumer to buy with their conscience. It just may hurt USAirways even more if the consumer looked at the relations between management and labor, but if that is the kick in the ass this industry needs then so be it.

[post="296958"][/post]​

You do realize that most of us customers here like US better than other airlines, and are quite happy with US, right? But I guess you'd know better.

 

[fr8tmastr]

CHQdriver, where did you work prior to CHQ? Which stations are you refering to? if its Phl I understand.

 

[CHQDRVR]

CHQdriver, where did you work prior to CHQ? Which stations are you refering to? if its Phl I understand.

[post="296983"][/post]​

Are you mixing my replies up with Capt Morgan's? Previously worked for AA (but not as a pilot).

 

[Capt Morgan]

Don't worry.  Hell will freeze before I step on a Republic-operated plane.
You do realize that most of us customers here like US better than other airlines, and are quite happy with US, right?  But I guess you'd know better.

[post="296977"][/post]​

Good for you then. If you are happy with the service you receive then by all means, continue. If you care about labor relations that is one thing, if you do not then buy the cheap ticket. My point was that you will, on mainline or express, get what you pay for. When mainline is treated like express they will become that level of service, no matter how great the employee originally was. This is a direct reflection of the relationship between management and labor. Other airlines do it better. If you are a supporter of USAirway, great. They need them. Write letters of support for those who deserve them. Do what you can to support those, growing fewer and fewer, who keep a positive attitude and make this a respectable business.

 

[Light Years]

You don't pay attention do you? I am not attacking you. However, I will point out again that I have worked in the environment of US Air, TWA, America West, American, Delta, United and USAirways. I say again, the attitude at USAirways, much like that which you just displayed is by far the worst working environment of them all. Personally, I feel that the current situation is a result of that attitude. America West stands to lose too much if the culture and attitude of USAirways continues and destroys their culture. Tell me again, how many other airlines have you worked with?

[post="296970"][/post]​

I've worked for four airlines. And I don't mean "We did America West Express for a few months out of CMH..." I mean worked for actual airlines.

So four different airlines.

Do you really think you know the "culture" of TWA because you did some TWE service on Saabs and RJs? Or AA's? Or everyone else you contract with?

I spent a few hours in the AA terminal in ORD a couple of weeks ago... do I now have my finger on the pulse of AA's corporate culture? No. There was a contract cleaner emptying a bin by the Mickey D's, and he doesn't have the in on thier culture either.

I belive the current culture is because of the divide and conquer tactics of management. Employees are forced to compete with each other... no teamwork can come from a patchwork of divisions, subsidiaries, and contracted affiliates, each with thier own agenda. Employees have been under the knife for YEARS and none of thier jobs are safe.

The MAA employees continue to do an excellent job despite the fact that they are losing thier jobs AGAIN and have had to file lawsuits against the company and the union. You don't believe me, ask someone in Consumer Affairs.

What "current situation" at US Airways are you referring too? This Republic disgrace? Or bankrupcy? US Airways won Airline of the year from the Airline Quality rating while in bankrupcy. The employees have been nothing but professionals throughout the whole thing despite often awful, life-altering circumstances. Millions of our frequent flyers would agree. The poisioned culture comes from the top, and I too hope America West can help rebuild spirit.

You don't see us commenting on your culture, so unless you currently work there, maybe you should keep your comments to yourself.