Rumor - C-chks In Phx

[Breath_of_Fresh_USAirways]

RUMOR 😛h34r:

Coming to PHX -- 😛

Narrow-body C-checks --

RUMOR only -- no confirmation from anybody at this time --

COMMENTS???

 

[insp89]

RUMOR 😛h34r:

Coming to PHX -- 😛

Narrow-body C-checks --

RUMOR only -- no confirmation from anybody at this time --

COMMENTS???

[post="297710"][/post]​

I know a lot of ex-PSA mechanics that would like to move back West... 😉

 

[a320av8r]

I heard Nogales,MX would be doing the C- checks.
Cheaper, not far away, and keeps with Dubya's philosophy of shipping all US jobs out of the country.

Just a rumor though. 😛h34r:

 

[PHX-F/A]

I heard Nogales,MX would be doing the C- checks.
Cheaper, not far away, and keeps with Dubya's philosophy of shipping all US jobs out of the country.

Just a rumor though. 😛h34r:

[post="298242"][/post]​

United State of America, the new 2nd world country. Office cubicle for the 1st world.

 

[High Iron]

I know a lot of ex-PSA mechanics that would like to move back West... 😉

[post="298179"][/post]​

Heh heh. No doubt there are many more ex-Piedmont/ex-US guys that would like to see a bunch of ex-PSA guys to move back out west too. 😀

 

[Dea Certe]

Seriously, just how many "old" PSA guys/gals are still around? Most of us are retiring in the near future. In fact, if the PBGC (or what the acronym is) would just let us know how much we can expect to get in pension, even more would leave sooner.

Dea

 

[700UW]

If the IAM is the surviving union which is should be based on numbers all HP's Airbii will have to come in house, the 757s can be outsourced as well as 50% of the 737s, but this won't happen until the merger and intergration.

 

[justaumechanic]

Dont hold your breath on the Airbus work coming in-house..

I know what the contract says, I know what the IAM says, I know what Frank says.. But what they say and reality are two different things..

Ask the pilots over at MDA.. Tell them their jobs are not going to be outsourced. Tell them. This is while they are getting their layoff notices..

The simple fact is this. AWA does not do its work in-house and it has no intention of doing it. AWA has no intention of keeping PIT as a Mtc Station. None.

The FAB shop in PIT will be closing in a few months.. Just another shop leaving the company.. We have all seen the auction that is going to go on selling everything that is not nailed to the floor..

And on top of that.. There is nothing stopping them from filing a contract modification with the judge, nothing. You say they won't, you may be right. But there is nothing stopping them..

Doug Parker has no intention of adding any technician manpower, none.. He has no intention of bringing in any Airbus work and he just recently signed a long term deal with Aeroman and TIMCO for continued Airbus work and Aeroman is getting ready to add a fourth track in El Salvadore for the work.

Don't hold your breath.. You will die..

 

[700UW]

They cant file a contract modification, that is temporar change, they would have to file another section 1113 c for a total abrogation and would force negotiations once again.

 

[justaumechanic]

And what is to stop them from doing what you just wrote?

If you say NOTHING you would be correct.

Regardless of the specific legal aspect the simple fact is they can pretty much do what they want..

And all of this is dependant on who's contract survives, not which union but which contract.. Remember the the merger legally puts AWA as the buying company. The IAM might be the winner by size but the AWA contract could be the surviving document that the IAM has to administer.

And don't say that this can not happen, it can. Ask anyone at Southwest or Northwest or United. When AFMA took over they just put their name on the exisiting contract.. It can happen.

So if the IAM wins and the AWA contract survives what do you think happens to the maintenance?

Lets be realistic. At a time when all the legacy carriers are getting rid of all of their maintenance why on earth would AWA want to bring more maintenance in-house when they already enjoy the liberty of farming it all out? The whole point is to get rid of as many employees as possible.. Writing is on the wall and its in big letters.

 

[700UW]

AWA is not buying US, they are merging keeping the US Name and the US operating certificate, if the IAM survives their contract is the surviving one, not the IBT and their contract.

If US files an section 1113 C in order for an abrogation to take place they would have to negotiate with the union and all this has to take place before emergence which does not give enough time to meet the criteria.

Only tiime will tell.

 

[justaumechanic]

700UW

You need to review the brief filed with the court and with the SEC.

Yes it is a merger but for legal reasons it is a purchase. Buy out.

And we all know how they love to shove things in the unions face..

Doug would like to treat it like a merger but the simple fact is it is a
buy out. Without AmericaWest US Airways would not survive.. Thats pretty
simple.

Bottom line.. Regardless of what the contract says the company can no longer afford to have any type of heavy maintenance in-house.. Its that simple.

The cost of the S check being done in PIT right now is 30% higher than it was at MAE.. Its simple math.

Frank and Bill and all the rest of the IAM can say what they want, beat whatever drum they want.. Bottom line, the work is going to be shipped out to Aeroman, TIMCO and ACTS..

JetBlue, AirTran and Southwest average 3.75 mechanics per active aircraft in the fleet. The combined US Airways will average just over 7 mechanics per active aircraft. (350 aircraft and approx 2700 technicians) Twice as many.. Its math, its not nice, no one likes it but its math. Plain and simple.

The contract will not stand in its present form.. Doug and the dream team know this. Yes PIT is doing a great job, no question about it. Doug does not want to pay for a Lexus when he can get a KIA!!