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Flight Attendant HI6 Msg this morning 10/13 states that SFO will no longer be a pilots base..Closure in 6 months per APA CBA language.
F/A Base will remain......for now.

shafted in SF.....again.
 
And this is a surprise how?...

Anyone who expected anything other than the cornerstone airports to remain as crew bases is stuck in the 70's.
 
Don't forget STL! It HAS to be a base until it is changed in a new contract. Although I am not sure DCA or BOS would close, but they might.
 
The best part is, AA's chief pilot sent out a missive and blamed the base closing on us pilots. He said it was because we wouldn't give the company relief on staffing issues.

Yes, that's right. The company had planned on keeping SFO open all along, but just decided on a whim in the last day or two that they are closing it due to us darned "unreasonable" pilots.

Even though the company may not be bankrupt, management's integrity sure is.
 
The best part is, AA's chief pilot sent out a missive and blamed the base closing on us pilots. He said it was because we wouldn't give the company relief on staffing issues.

Oh come on. You didn't actually expect the company not to spin this, did you? It's the nature of the beast during negotiation season, and it's a 2-way street. Both sides spin when it suits their objectives, and when they think it might help their negotiating position.

Either way, I don't really see how this affects the negotiations either way. If - as has been suggested - this was somehow a ploy by the company to try and gain leverage over the APA, I must be missing how that is supposed to work.

And - as you and E said - yeah, this was obviously already baked in, and for good reason. In the world of 2012, there is no longer any need for AA to have a base in SFO - nor in STL, DCA, or possibly BOS (depending on whether they keep the Europe flying, I guess).

Hopefully this rationalization of the basing structure can be addressed in this reportedly-near TA, along with 90-seater flying, longhaul flying, codesharing/ATI/JV, pay scales, 77W/787/737/A320, etc. Too much to ask?
 
Yeah, and nothing is going to happen for six months. It's not going to help the current pilot manning situation.
 
The best part is, AA's chief pilot sent out a missive and blamed the base closing on us pilots. He said it was because we wouldn't give the company relief on staffing issues.

Yes, that's right. The company had planned on keeping SFO open all along, but just decided on a whim in the last day or two that they are closing it due to us darned "unreasonable" pilots.

Not in quite so many words, but yes, it's really hard not to read "it's your fault" from what he said.

Hale should have just said "we need to concentrate our resources" and left it at that.

Here's the exact text. Decide for yourselves:

Posted: 10/13/2011 6:51:58 AM
Title: Special Flight Department Hotline - 10.13.11
Brief:
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SPECIAL FLIGHT DEPARTMENT HOTLINE
October 13, 2011

This is CA John Hale with the Flight Department Hotline for Thursday, Oct. 13.

One fact of life that you and I as pilots have accepted is that while we don’t always choose the circumstances we find ourselves in, we must find the course that ensures the safe completion of our flight. No matter what position you hold on the flight deck, it is understood that you will analyze every situation and given the options ahead, you choose the best of what you’re given.

That’s the reality of leadership as well, and while I’d prefer to deal with only the good news and positive situations, just as we all do in the cockpit, I must deal with them all. Today I have to inform you of the decision to close our San Francisco crew base. This decision was not made lightly and comes with much regret and only after intensive discussion and strategic analysis. Unfortunately, this difficult course of action proves to be the best in the long run for all concerned.

As many of you know, the recent surge in retirements has left our manning levels to be critically short to the detriment of our schedule reliability. We were unable to achieve a bridge agreement to allow us to temporarily ease the manning crunch, so we must find another way to underwrite the reliability of our operation. That means concentrating our resources where we were need them most and marshaling our forces around our cornerstones strategy. The current economic environment also leaves us faced with making tough choices about where and how we spend our money and this closure will save significant reserve and management costs.

While this is not the course we’d planned on or hoped for, we must nonetheless take the required steps to deal with the situation we now find ourselves in, adapting and finding another clear path through difficult circumstances. That’s not only the commitment we make every day on the flight deck, but also the reality of the airline business in the 21st century.

Of course, we understand the impact this decision has on pilots and families, just as we have experienced many times before in the closing of pilot crew bases in Raleigh-Durham, Seattle, Nashville, and San Diego. We in the Flight Department stand ready to help the pilots who are affected by the base closure to move smoothly into positions at other bases around our system.

You’ve heard me say it before, but I’ll repeat it again: we are the strongest we can be when we work cooperatively and with a commitment to the ultimate goal, which is a thriving and secure American Airlines, solidly positioned for the future in a very competitive industry. Together, we’ll get through this difficult time, reinforce our airline’s resilience, and, in the process, ensure our future and that of our 70,000 coworkers.

That’s all for today.
 
Oh come on. You didn't actually expect the company not to spin this, did you?

Regardless of E's spin job, the thing that makes this significant and sad is the person that wrote it. The new chief pilot was supposed to be "a new way of doing business." A "straight shooter." A "friend of the line pilot."

What a joke.
 
Regardless of E's spin job, the thing that makes this significant and sad is the person that wrote it. The new chief pilot was supposed to be "a new way of doing business." A "straight shooter." A "friend of the line pilot."

What a joke.
IS that Capt. Kimball Stone?
 
John Hale

Now famous for telling guys approximately two years ago that we would see a new contract in "weeks, not months" and we were all about to "move up so fast, you'll feel like you've been shot out of a cannon".

Here we sit after years and years of shrinkage, billions in losses, and operationally rudderless and adrift.

I guess SFO pilots just got their "cannon shot".
 
Regardless of E's spin job, the thing that makes this significant and sad is the person that wrote it.

How is agreeing with how you interpreted it and quoting the full message "spin"???
 
F/A Base will remain......for now.
I think SFO is fairly safe for a FA base. There are over 630 based there now, and the efficiencies are different from the pilots' since we can fly all equipment types.

I can't help but wonder how many SFO pilots who are contemplating retiring soon will be pushed over the edge by the closure of their base, thus adding to the problem.

MK
 
I think SFO is fairly safe for a FA base. There are over 630 based there now, and the efficiencies are different from the pilots' since we can fly all equipment types.

I can't help but wonder how many SFO pilots who are contemplating retiring soon will be pushed over the edge by the closure of their base, thus adding to the problem.

MK


I hope so...One never know just how stubbornly AA will stick to those (stupid) covenants of The Cornerstone Plan. (stupid) If your not a Cornerstone...your a Kidney Stone...a la SFO BOS STL and DCA..and it sux.
 

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