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jimntx said:
Oh, so in addition to being the only one who knows anything about anything, you are now the arbiter of good taste? Is this just since Martha has been in the pokey?
Or have you been hiding this other talent from us peons?

And, if us peons can't whine about not being able to max out on availability, then you and FA Mikey can put a sock in it over your poor overworked, understaffed fannies. At least you have a job! At International pay rates, too! (See, it works both ways.)
[post="241945"][/post]​

I will now read your posts as being a joke. The problem with understaffing is not that I have to work harder its that there are f/a's on furlough that should be flying these positions. Meanwhile you complain that you can't max out regardless of the fact that you get paid your guarantee anyway. Sympathy for what you whine about would be hard to find. Ooops- I forgot, everything you post is a joke - right!?
 
MiAAmi said:
The problem with understaffing is not that I have to work harder its that there are f/a's on furlough that should be flying these positions.
[post="241975"][/post]​

Dream on. Furloughed f/as are not going to be recalled to fly in IMA. IMA is not understaffed. IMA (and MIA) is populated with f/as who don't like/want to fly--particularly on airplanes that have passengers on them.

If IMA or MIA were understaffed, there wouldn't be f/as in SLT on forced transfers.
 
jimntx said:
Dream on. Furloughed f/as are not going to be recalled to fly in IMA. IMA is not understaffed. IMA (and MIA) is populated with f/as who don't like/want to fly--particularly on airplanes that have passengers on them.

If IMA or MIA were understaffed, there wouldn't be f/as in SLT on forced transfers.
[post="241985"][/post]​


If scheduling tells me that there will be no VM positions on Caribbean flights for the rest of the month then yes IMA is understaffed. If they need people at IMA then they will need a International proffer for IMA thus leaving openings at other bases hence the need for more recalls. Forced transfers at SLT have nothing to do with the current levels at IMA as they where forced to SLT prior to the staffing problems at IMA. Since you were on furlough I would think that you would welcome our colleagues back to the line. Your comment about the Miami base is just more of your bad jokes, right? Go back to Slt and enjoy sitting around doing nothing but paying your commuter pad bill.
 
MiAAmi said:
If scheduling tells me that there will be no VM positions on Caribbean flights for the rest of the month then yes IMA is understaffed.  If they need people at IMA then they will need a International proffer for IMA thus leaving openings at other bases hence the need for more recalls.  Forced transfers at SLT have nothing to do with the current levels at IMA as they where forced to SLT prior to the staffing problems at IMA.  Since you were on furlough I would think that you would welcome our colleagues back to the line.  Your comment about the Miami base is just more of your bad jokes, right?  Go back to Slt and enjoy sitting around doing nothing but paying your commuter pad bill.
[post="241990"][/post]​

FYI, some of the forced transfers to SLT were, in fact, IMA-based f/as. Very junior, but IMA nonetheless. Though, I think they have since returned. Not sure.

Yes, I do intend to welcome the next round of furloughees back. Maybe I'll be able to hold a line at SLT. Also, I may have a chance to fly with some of the former TW flight attendants who have become friends of mine while I was furloughed. They understand that unity and unionism don't involve the me-me-me attitude prevalent among AA flight attendants. They also understand that there is more to a good contract than pay scale. If you don't have decent work rules (which we don't, and never have, had), pay scale doesn't matter very much.

The comment about the Miami base comes straight from AMR management. Based on the numbers of "active" flight attendants vs. the flying, both IMA and MIA are overstaffed. It's one of the reasons that the mini-leaves were offered for the first 4 months of the year.

The problem with IMA and MIA is not a lack of f/as. It's a lack of flight attendants who are flying trips in those bases. Again, this is straight from AMR management.

No need to worry that little head of yours about my paying for my commuter pad. Not only is it substantially cheaper in St. Louis than in other AA base cities, I have an income that is independent of AMR.
 
jimntx said:
Yes, I do intend to welcome the next round of furloughees back. Maybe I'll be able to hold a line at SLT. Also, I may have a chance to fly with some of the former TW flight attendants who have become friends of mine while I was furloughed. They understand that unity and unionism don't involve the me-me-me attitude prevalent among AA flight attendants. They also understand that there is more to a good contract than pay scale. If you don't have decent work rules (which we don't, and never have, had), pay scale doesn't matter very much.

[post="241993"][/post]​

Funny how in the same paragraph you talk about the me-me-me attitude yet you will welcome back the fuloughees because it will help you hold a line.
 
jimntx said:
The comment about the Miami base comes straight from AMR management. Based on the numbers of "active" flight attendants vs. the flying, both IMA and MIA are overstaffed. It's one of the reasons that the mini-leaves were offered for the first 4 months of the year.

The problem with IMA and MIA is not a lack of f/as. It's a lack of flight attendants who are flying trips in those bases. Again, this is straight from AMR management.

[post="241993"][/post]​

Can you back that up? Or is that just hear say? Or just another one of your "jokes".
 
AirLUVer said:
Mikey - If you staff short you are paying a sick person plus the crew members that work the flight and the U/S pay to each of them.

If you put a make up or high time reserve on the trip you are paying the SICK person, the original crew members, PLUS the Make Up flyer or high time reserve.

If the reserve is making more than 20 dollars per flight hour, its cheaper to pay on a 737 the three remaining crew members $5 dollars each per hour - total $15/hr than it is to pay the additional crew member the $20/hr.
[post="241927"][/post]​
The reserve's pay is already factored in to the budget and will be paid working or not. Low on time maybe protecting a month and is working to make up time lost, That time was likley a reserve, so they are a wash as far as the system budget or manning goes.
 
MiAAmi said:
Can you back that up? Or is that just hear say? Or just another one of your "jokes".
[post="242030"][/post]​

The last thing in the world I would worry about is whether or not you believe me.
 
jimntx said:
The last thing in the world I would worry about is whether or not you believe me.
[post="242106"][/post]​

So we will take that as a big NO! you can't back up what you post! and why should you, eveything is a big joke.
 
MiAAmi said:
So we will take that as a big NO! you can't back up what you post! and why should you, eveything is a big joke.
[post="242126"][/post]​

Take it however you wish. By the way, do you have a mouse in your pocket or have you now adopted the royal "we"?
 
jimntx said:
Take it however you wish. By the way, do you have a mouse in your pocket or have you now adopted the royal "we"?
[post="242235"][/post]​

No, thats no mouse- I'm just happy to read your posts
 
FA Mikey said:
The reserve's pay is already factored in to the budget and will be paid working or not. Low on time maybe protecting a month and is working to make up time lost, That time was likley a reserve, so they are a wash as far as the system budget or manning goes.
[post="242035"][/post]​


Mikey, Please re-read my post, I indicated a HIGH time reserve - one that is breaking guarantee.
 
AirLUVer said:
Mikey, Please re-read my post, I indicated a HIGH time reserve - one that is breaking guarantee.
[post="242572"][/post]​
I understand what you are saying. But remember that reserve's are already factored in an expense. Whether they are used or not. I am talking more to over all, you are speaking more of a single flight. In that we are both correct.
 
Option II has been open all month as well, so that is also an additional expence for the company, they are actually paying regular line holders incentive rates so that they don't run out of reserves.
 
FA Mikey said:
I understand what you are saying. But remember that reserve's are already factored in an expense. Whether they are used or not. I am talking more to over all, you are speaking more of a single flight. In that we are both correct.
[post="242581"][/post]​

Their guarantee is factored in, but if they are going over guarantee that is additional money not factored in. Also not just the wages associated with understaffing pay, you have also the other expenses associated with an additional employee.
 

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