757 & International Fleet Utilization

[RealisticObserver]

According to CH Aviation website, US has 50 planes capable for International/Etops flights:

333 - 9
332 - 7
762 - 10
757 - 24 all etops, but only 19 have winglets

According to US website, the following international non-continental US flights each evening are as follows

PHL - 20

(5) 333 - FRA,FRA,MAD,MAN,FCO
(5) 332 - BCN,MUN,LHR,TLV,CDG
(5) 762 - ATH,BRU,DUB,ZUR,VCE
(5) 752 - AMS,GLA,LIS,SJU,ANC

CLT - 6
(2) 333 - FRA,FCO
(2) 332 - LHR,CDG
(1) 762 - RIO
(1) 752 - DUB

PHX - 4
(4) 752, OGG,LIH,KOA

Thats a total of only 30 flights of which
7 of 9 333
7 of 8 332
6 of 10 762
10 of 24 752's

I was at PHL last night at 1030pm, and there were 2 752's on the maintenance ramp and nothing else (besides a 734 getting what appeared to be an engine change) I know there are some 752 flights between PHX-DCA, and PHL-MCO occasionally, in addition to 762 & 752 re-positioning flights between PHL-CLT but where are the extra 752's. Are they being optimally utilized at this point. I know they are used to the carribean during the winter months, but where else are they being deployed during the summer.

Thanks

 

[PSA1979]

I know TLV and RIO each use 2 planes a day, as the logistics of operating those long flights has them crossing paths. For example 796 leaves PHL at 2100 and arrives TLV at 0815, while 797 leaves TLV at 1655 and arrives PHL at 0520.

 

[767one]

I know TLV and RIO each use 2 planes a day, as the logistics of operating those long flights has them crossing paths. For example 796 leaves PHL at 2100 and arrives TLV at 0815, while 797 leaves TLV at 1655 and arrives PHL at 0520.

The 757 also does PHL-PHX,PHX-CLT,PHX-SAN. Also a fair amount of Caribbean flying.

Bob

 

[wings396]

As far as I know, All of the 757's have winglets. I have never seen an ETOPS one without, unless there are some on the West fleet without them.

 

[notquiteUS]

The charts have several errors. Its missing LGW,HNL,CUN, just to mention a few. The Caribbean also uses 757s in the summer not just winter. Also some Hawaii routes have multiple departures per day. I'm fairly sure the planes are being utilized quite well for how few of them there are compared to other airlines. And yes some west 757s do not have winglets. Though once the issue of west and east is resolved the planes will surely be able to be utilized a bit better due to less conflicting scheduling of crews.

 

[strangiatotheme]

As far as I know, All of the 757's have winglets. I have never seen an ETOPS one without, unless there are some on the West fleet without them.

Ships 901, 902, 904, 905 and 906 (all the -2S7s) do not have winglets. I think there was a weight issue which precluded winglet installation, but they are all ETOPS certified.


Let's try this list again, from July 31st:


PHX - 8

(8) 757 - CUN, HNL (3), KOA, LIH, OGG (2)

PHL - 24

(6) 332 - BCN, CDG, LHR, MUC, SJU, TLV
(5) 333 - FCO, FRA (2), MAD, MAN
(5) 767 - ATH, BRU, DUB, VCE, ZRH
(8) 757 - AMS, ANC, LIS, GLA, SJU (2), STT, SXM

CLT - 11

(1) 332 - CDG
(3) 333 - FCO, FRA, LGW
(3) 767 - GIG, MAD, STT
(4) 757 - AUA, DUB, STT, SXM

Which totals to:

332 - 7 of 7
333 - 8 of 9
767 - 8 of 10
757 - 20 of 24

GIG and TLV both require two aircraft, so there's actually pretty good utilization of the long-haul fleet. The remaining 757 flying is done on CLT-DFW/MCO/PHL, PHL-CLT, and PHX-PHL/SAN. This can all vary by day, but you see the general idea in terms of deployment.