So who shut it down?

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Rather simple.....

There is really nothing complicated about the facts. The Republican-controlled House of Representatives voted all the money required to keep all government activities going -- except for ObamaCare.
This is not a matter of opinion. You can check the Congressional Record.
As for the House of Representatives' right to grant or withhold money, that is not a matter of opinion either. You can check the Constitution of the United States. All spending bills must originate in the House of Representatives, which means that Congressmen there have a right to decide whether or not they want to spend money on a particular government activity.

Perhaps the biggest of the big lies is that the government will not be able to pay what it owes on the national debt, creating a danger of default. Tax money keeps coming into the Treasury during the shutdown, and it vastly exceeds the interest that has to be paid on the national debt.
Even if the debt ceiling is not lifted, that only means that government is not allowed to run up new debt. But that does not mean that it is unable to pay the interest on existing debt.
http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2013/10/04/who-shut-down-the-government-n1716292
 
Too simple to explain the Just Ain't Right planned this months ago and now have apologists claiming they didn't really mean it.
 
Well see...

It was about spending

Boehner says on TV he had a deal with Ried in July for a clean bill with no ACA language, and for $ 90 Bil less than the Senate wanted.

Reneged on that deal, because...???

Decided it was really about defunding ACA

Today, ACA has all but disappeared from the GOP line

Now it is all about negotiating spending cuts

Which they had a deal on in July

Seriously... WTF?
 
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The truth will set you free, Republicans f**ked up everything under Bush and are trying their best to continue his legacy.

Well then, maybe we need dems to go back to control of both houses and spend us into oblivion....yeah, we can collapse the dollar and global economy and then lay it all on who?

Pssst - we are in the middle of Obama's f**ked up legacy.
 
Obama’s crisis of credibility


"President Barack Obama is like a novice flier thrust into the cockpit of a 747. He's pushing buttons, flipping switches and radioing air traffic control, but nothing's happening. The plane is just slowly descending on its own, and while it may or may not crash, it at least doesn't appear to be headed to any particularly useful destination."

Obama has something worse on his hands than being hated. All presidents get hated. But Obama is being ignored. And that’s because he has no credibility.

Obama has used every credibility-busting method available to eviscerate any sense that he can be counted on. He’s dissimulated, proven his unreliability, ruled arbitrarily and turned the White House into a Chicago-style political boiler room. His credibility has been sapped with his political opponents, a public that thinks him incompetent, our allies, who don’t trust him, and, even worse, our enemies, who don’t fear him.

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There’s not going to be any grand bargain on the budget this year. Republicans are not only miles from the president ideologically — they’re not going to trust him with holding up his end of the bargain. If they had a president they thought they could do business with, their spines might be weakening more quickly in the current budget impasse and they would be looking for an exit.

The only thing Obama can truly be counted on is to make his tee time on Saturdays, though the government shutdown has temporarily cramped his golf game.

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Well then, maybe we need dems to go back to control of both houses and spend us into oblivion....yeah, we can collapse the dollar and global economy and then lay it all on who?

Pssst - we are in the middle of Obama's f**ked up legacy.

Republicans spend more than the Dems and the sooner you realize this the sooner you will recover. Remember the unpaid for wars under Bush? Dems spend it on people, Pubes spend it on wars.
 
It appears "who shut it down" is like the chicken or the egg story.

But let me suggest who will capitulate and start it back up...

The people who are wanting access to healthcare dont have 401k's....
The republicans do, ....Sooo, who cares more about the potential market collapse?

Check-mate......
 
Words,,strung together like pearls on a string

Don't ya' just love how the story keeps changin' just to make the words rhyme?

Joe Walsh... ~35 years ago

Hey now the well run dry
Pages of the book on fire
Read the writing ...on the wall...

Hoedown, say showdown
Everywhere you look
they're fighting...Hear the call...

And you know its getting stronger,
It can't last very much longer
Turn to stone

Well there's a change in the wind
You know the signs don't lie
Such a strange feeling and I don't know why
Its takin'... such a long time ...

Backyard people and they work all day
Tired of the speeches
And the way the reasons they keep changin'...
Just to make the Words Rhyme...

And you know its getting stronger,
Can't fake 'em out much longer
Turn to stone

And you know its getting stronger,
It can't last very much longer
Turn to stone
 
Republicans spend more than the Dems and the sooner you realize this the sooner you will recover. Remember the unpaid for wars under Bush? Dems spend it on people, Pubes spend it on wars.
How much the GOP spend in the last 5 years?

Your boy Obama is doing pretty good killing people with your money...
 
How much the GOP spend in the last 5 years?

Your boy Obama is doing pretty good killing people with your money...

Don't let the truth get in the way. The Pubes say cut costs for everyone but themselves. And, what does that mean? Each of them want money for their states. And, what does that mean? They don't want to cut spending. Go learn something today.
 
Don't let the truth get in the way. The Pubes say cut costs for everyone but themselves. And, what does that mean? Each of them want money for their states. And, what does that mean? They don't want to cut spending. Go learn something today.
So dems don't want money for their states?

You get a copy of Harry Reids earmark for cowboy poets?
 

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