Target and Wal-Mart employee job action Black Friday

[Kev3188]

 I saw on the news today there are already people camping out in front of stores and we are 9 days away.  WTF?

Must be nice to can have that sort of free time...

 

[WorldTraveler]

Mc D employees get free lunch, no? any limits? how many times in a shift?

family discounts?

So if you can tolerate their food then you do save on that part of your budget.

Still no experts on what merchandise discounts Wal-Mart employees receive if you want a household full of Wal-Mart quality products.

 

[Dog Wonder]

 
Why don't you tell who organized this?

You mean Wal-Mart isn't trying to help their employees?

 

[southwind]

 
http://youtu.be/36usDqbotJU

 
 
Again, where does it say your suppose to be able to raise a family of 7 flipping burgers or stocking shelves?

 

[southwind]

This food drive isn't new.......
 
 
http://www.ourwalmartfactcheck.com/

 
Dammit Dell ! Don't distort the union agenda with facts !

 

[southwind]

You mean Wal-Mart isn't trying to help their employees?

 
I thought all Walmart was obligated to do was sign a paycheck!

 

[Ms Tree]

What about folks who's lot in life is not to be a brain surgeon?  I have worked with folks who are not that capable.  I know one guy and he has been a cashier assistant for years at his job.  He is not cut out for anything else.  He does not have the mental capacity (not dumb just not curious) to be a cashier, or any other dept.  Do people like taht not have a right to a livable wage?

 

[Kev3188]

Apparently not...

 

[delldude]

Class envy and the Marxist theory of surplus labor
 
Like so many other concepts promoted by the left, self-proclaimed progressives and their allies in organized labor have used the term “living wage” to mislead the public and justify government intervention in this case on behalf of organized labor.  While the term “living wage” evokes sympathy and sounds innocuous, the real objective of the “living wage” in the eyes of organized labor is to use the coercive power of the government to unionize millions of new workers at the expense of the taxpayer and the American economy.
 
Progressives utilize government intervention to enable workers to receive far more than market value for their services through labor union coercion and collectivism.  The “living wage” concept is closely related to the Marxist theory of surplus labor.  Marx used surplus labor theory to create class envy and create the illusion that workers could never receive the fair value of their efforts.  He used this concept to justify a violent overthrow of capitalism and replacement with worker run communism.  However under communism, workers were constrained to lives of misery in support of Communist Party officials.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/36690
 

 

[Ms Tree]

Here is a point to ponder.
 
We hear the no stop drone from the left that Wal-Mart is a "Welfare Queen" and costs the government a ton of money as WalMart has offloaded a great deal of its cost onto government. All of this is true actually.
 
However consider this. If we hade no government safety net, might it be possible that unionization would have taken place by now? That the court of Public Opinion which turning against them daily would have already turned?
 
Government meddling can be useful at times, but usually not.

I would think it would be in a companies best interest not to have unions on the property.  Given all the grief they cause I think that makes sense.  I think a company can do that one of two ways.  They can use force to keep the unions off the property but that will not work in the long run if employees want the union.  The other option would be to make the work environment such that the employees do not feel the need for one.  
 
I think that business and government (mainly conservatives) seem to be against the idea of a livable wage because it takes money out of the coffers of their biggest donators.  It allows business to take advantage of the employees in a weak economy where any job is snatched up.  
 
I am definitely not in favor of an entry level job at Mc'D's earning $15/hr but I also do not think it should be $7.25 or what ever the current min wage is.  Wal-Mart made over $15 billion inn profits last year according to what I read.  I think they can afford slightly higher wages and health benefits.  Other companies can do it, why can't that?  Perhaps a better question would be why don't that because they obviously can.

 

[WorldTraveler]

What about folks who's lot in life is not to be a brain surgeon?  I have worked with folks who are not that capable.  I know one guy and he has been a cashier assistant for years at his job.  He is not cut out for anything else.  He does not have the mental capacity (not dumb just not curious) to be a cashier, or any other dept.  Do people like taht not have a right to a livable wage?

 
 

Apparently not...

what clause of the constitution should we find basic standards of living that should be afforded to every American? you do realize that the US doesn't even agree that health care is a "right" in contrast to most other developed countries.

 

[southwind]

What about folks who's lot in life is not to be a brain surgeon?  I have worked with folks who are not that capable.  I know one guy and he has been a cashier assistant for years at his job.  He is not cut out for anything else.  He does not have the mental capacity (not dumb just not curious) to be a cashier, or any other dept.  Do people like taht not have a right to a livable wage?

All depends on what your willing to pay for whatever he's ringing up...................$9.89 for a Big Mac maybe?

 

[SparrowHawk]

In short:
We are guaranteed an equal OPPORTUNITY
NOT an equal OUTCOME

 

[Kev3188]

In short:
We are guaranteed an equal OPPORTUNITY

Are we?

In today's America?

You sure?

I'd love to agree with you, but I'm not seeing it...

 

[Ms Tree]

 
 

what clause of the constitution should we find basic standards of living that should be afforded to every American? you do realize that the US doesn't even agree that health care is a "right" in contrast to most other developed countries.

Ill have to refead my post and edit it t pop take out any legal reference I made. Oh wait. I didn't make any.