teamsters Renege on CWA

[700UW]

teamsters Renege

 

[B737 MECHANIC]

teamsters Renege

MORE I.A.M B.S

 

[Ramp Rogue]

teamsters Renege

You iam'ers just can't keep your nose out of other peoples business. You would think you'd have enough to worry about (with all of the dues you're about to lose)seeing as how there WILL be a vote. Is Misery (iam) looking for Company? The IBT and the CWA could care less about the iam. That is why you're in the predicament you're in, always worrying about what someone else is doing instead of working in behalf of your own members. And believe me it shows.

 

[320tech]

teamsters Renege

Boy the IAM is getting desperate with their lies again!

 

[Dog Wonder]

In all fairness we don't know that they are lying. In fact we don't know anything for certain which is my point. It's an unfounded allegation disguised as fact.

I do know IBT is insisting, while they are willing to accept all of the improvements in the CWA contract, on throwing seniority for CWA agents out the window.

 

[Dog Wonder]

OK and what is their basis or logic in that request? For most labor unions seniority is God so why would this be different?

Are they looking at some super secret formula to even the alleged disparity in seniority of the 2 groups?

That is why there is an impasse.

the IBT and CWA can't find a middle ground on seniority.

 

[Ramp Rogue]

That is why there is an impasse.

the IBT and CWA can't find a middle ground on seniority.

The middle ground is your seniority started the day you were hired. No more, no less. Nothing should be taken, nothing should be given. Deal with it.

 

[PQAKnow-It-All]

The problem with straight DOH seniority is there is no way that awa CSRs can even begin to compare with the Us seniority. Is it fair that a 1yr csr at HP should risk themselves for US csr? no...is this a huge issue? yup, and i do not even pretend to have a solution, but what I can tell you is the HP CSRs will loose out if we go with straight DOH senority, and that is not fair. this is a merger, not a US acqusition. due to that, HP deserves better than DOH senority...I just don't know what that 'better' is.

 

[PhxMama]

Date of Hire does have a certain simplicity to it.

It's better than one group being "stapled" to the bottom of the other group

And I think it beats some convoluted formula that no matter how "Fair" it purports to be someone will feel screwed.

With DOH you know where you stand and why. Fair??? Maybe, Perfect? NOPE, best of the three options? YES

Unfortunately, with the CSR group DOH essentially means West group is stapled to the bottom. There is a vast difference in seniority between the two groups. If IBT and CWA cannot agree on an integration formula to use, it will be be going to arbitation this June.

 

[Awa Contract]

Don't you just love the way the IAM like to state everything without fact when they can twist it to thier favor. When I inquired about this this morning I was told there had never been a agreement as the IAM claims there was. If the issue is still open how can either side have reneged on a agreement - and this has nothing to do with MX as the IAM would lead you to believe. Personally I think the IAM leadership has had to much of Dougie's Koolaid.

 

[PhxMama]

teamsters Renege

This is complete garbage. There is nothing remotely true about any of this. The IBT and CWA have been working TOGETHER to help their own membership. Seniority will be worked out even if it goes to arbitration. There has been no deception or reneging as there has never been an agreement in place. I dont know much about your issues and why you have so much animosity towards the IBT but posts like this only hurt your credibility and your valid points may be dismissed. If you have valid points to make please make them but please leave CSR group out of it. Thanx.

 

[Bird Doctor]

Post again started by the IAM అబద్ధము, అనృతము, కల్ల

 

[awausairtech]

Just Shows You How Low The IAM Will GO. If I Was A IAM Member This Would Make Me So Proud Of My Union. :down:

 

[ringmaruf]

Unfortunately, with the CSR group DOH essentially means West group is stapled to the bottom. There is a vast difference in seniority between the two groups. If IBT and CWA cannot agree on an integration formula to use, it will be be going to arbitation this June.

You know, there are lots and lots and lots of new hire CSA's at US/East at stations like PHL and DCA, and a number of smaller stations as well. They're not all super-senior, it's not like the situation with the pilots or to a lesser extent the f/a's. Just a quick glance at usairways.com shows that they're *hiring* off the street CSA's in MHT, BWI, MDT, EWR, CHS, BOS, MKE, PVD, ALB, IND, RSW, ILM, ORF, SRQ, PNS, RDU, MCO, YYZ, RIC, MSP, MCI, DTW, BHM, BTV, BDL. That's quite a long list of stations. (Most of those are probably part-time and/or Early Out positions, but they'll still be filled with new-hires, junior to everyone at HP.) Some stations are very senior, yes, but again, the senior employees can't go bumping out junior ones because they want to move, and furloughees won't be bumping out active employees.

 

[Awa Contract]

The IAM must have the same people that do the supermarket tabloids that found the batboy and the captain of the Titanic doing thier printing. At least you know the reliability of the content is the same.