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Temporary Injunction against USAPA filed today

It is true... it was a diversion to an alternate not filed, but directed by ATC; the alternate was full, something we don't have to consider in the States. I think they were lost to company for over 2 hours. There is very limited ACARS coverage and HF reception is difficult at best. We had no HF contact in S.A. this morning.

But according to these web board geniuses, no big deal, they will turn up eventually. I mean, that's how they did it in DC-4s and all, so that must have been a USAPA DOH issue. Idiots.

Do you know why 800 diverted last night or this morning? I'm sure it was a job action! :blink:
 
But according to these web board geniuses, no big deal, they will turn up eventually. I mean, that's how they did it in DC-4s and all, so that must have been a USAPA DOH issue. Idiots.

Do you know why 800 diverted last night or this morning? I'm sure it was a job action! :blink:
Take it easy Pi. You may get a warning bar and lose that great guy status.
 
But according to these web board geniuses, no big deal, they will turn up eventually. I mean, that's how they did it in DC-4s and all, so that must have been a USAPA DOH issue. Idiots.

Do you know why 800 diverted last night or this morning? I'm sure it was a job action! :blink:
Don't know what happened with 800 but we had problems last night with 722. First , etr of 1800 bumped to 2200 bumped to 0500,then a swap, got ready to go and another swap, finally left almost 2 hrs. late. 738 (lisbon) was next to us, had the right engine all opened up and I think they finally cancelled.

Bob
 
That is a complete insult to all of us, east and west, that took the time to answer the survey honestly.

Unfortunately, when you need the benefit of the doubt it's no longer there thanks to what USAPA supporters have done in the past. "Honestly"? I think the Honest ship sailed about 5 years ago. Now what you consider an insult is an accurate assessment.

Too bad.
 
I suspect Management and most west pilots saw the USAPA safety survey as the obvious precursor to an illegal work slowdown and the tired old negotiating tactic which has been proven over and over again to receive harsh reprimand from the courts. Do you think Americans should participate in a Taliban-authored survey entitled, "is America the Great Satin"? I say no, because you cannot trust that the survey instrument is properly constructed to remove any prejudicial bias on the part of the survey designer. Furthermore, who would really trust USAPA to tell the truth if the survey actually put the company operations in a neutral to favorable light. Isn't it far more likely that USAPA would ensure the results came out exactly as they intended, not matter what the pilots actually said? USAPA telegraphs their nefarious intentions well enough in advance for Management and west pilots to know to steer clear of their every move.

Management does put safety first. Not only is that "the right thing to do" for all who travel on US, but it is also the most fiscally responsible thing to do as well. However, Management and USAPA may not always agree on what is/is not safe. If USAPA could ever be trusted and sought to have a meaningful and honest bilateral relationship with Management, certain concerns would almost certainly be given more consideration in the normal give and take between labor and Management. However, USAPA's penchant to turn everything into a narcissistic adversarial relationship based on distrust, false accusations, and breach of duty means they rightfully get less respect than Rodney Dangerfield. Actions have consequences and USAPA's actions with regard to the NIC mean that they have no credibility or trust from anyone they sit across the table from.
 
Airways files for a Temporary Restraining Order this morning. Here's the summary. Note how Cleary eff'd up the after hours response following the filing of the injunction, thereby justifying a TRO. (The TRO is the same thing as the women running into court and based on oath and affirmation ONLY, getting a judge to slap a restraining order on the man in the house. Happens all the time in the real world.)

PRELIMINARY STATEMENT
US Airways, Inc. (“US Airways”) seeks a Temporary Restraining Order (“TRO”) under
the Railway Labor Act, 45 U.S.C. § 151 et seq. (the “RLA”) against the US Airline Pilots
Association (“USAPA”) and Michael J. Cleary (collectively, “Defendants”), to prohibit them
from engaging in an unlawful slowdown significantly disrupting US Airways’ operations — and
causing irreparable harm to the traveling public and US Airways each day it continues.

On July 29, 2011, US Airways filed a Complaint and a Motion for Preliminary Injunction
(“Motion”) against Defendants as a result of the substantial harm that Defendants are causing by
their slowdown campaign. An immediate TRO was not sought at that time, even though US
Airways was, and with each passing day still is, suffering significant irreparable injury to its
operations and its reputation; rather, the Motion sought preliminary injunctive relief on an
expedited basis in order to afford Defendants an opportunity to review and respond. But instead
of cooperating in arranging for a prompt resolution of the Motion, Defendants have sought to
delay any hearing concerning this matter, while at the same time repeating and reinforcing the
unlawful behavior that forced US Airways to initiate this action.
 
USAPAs Objectives:

A. To operate a non-profit, employee-representing association.

B. To protect the individual and collective rights of the members of USAPA and promote their professional interests.

C. To establish and exercise the right of collective bargaining for the purpose of negotiating and maintaining employment agreements covering income, benefits and work-rule conditions for the members of USAPA and to promptly settle disputes and grievances which may arise between such members and their employer.

D. To maintain uniform principles of seniority based on date of hire and the perpetuation thereof, with reasonable conditions and restrictions to preserve each pilot's un-merged career expectations.

E. To promote the safety of scheduled air transportation



Doesn't rank high on USAPAs priorities.
 
This is how the company is going to answer the "they're trying to tell pilots how to do their jobs" rebuttal I've seen on these boards:

"US Airways’ pilots are highly trained professionals and do not need to be
told that they should not fly an unsafe aircraft — they know that. So when USAPA repeatedly
emphasizes safety to its members in the midst of labor negotiations, pilots understand that
USAPA is telling them to slowdown in order to disrupt the operation. This is particularly so
where, as here, USAPA does so while also telling pilots there are “strong implications beyond
just safety” and “flying safe” is necessary to get the contract they deserve. The true purpose of
USAPA’s campaign is further confirmed by the fact that the only participants are the “East”
pilots. The East pilots worked for US Airways prior to its merger with America West Airlines in
2005, and are domiciled in Charlotte, D.C., and Philadelphia, and their allegiance to USAPA is
generally stronger than that of the “West pilots,” who worked for America West prior to the
merger, and are domiciled in Phoenix."
 
"The Motion demonstrated concerted, illegal action by USAPA to interfere with and slow
down US Airways’ operations — a breach of the requirement to maintain the status quo under
Section 2, First, of the RLA. Since US Airways filed its Motion, USAPA’s illegal slowdown has
continued, with East pilots causing nine to ten flight cancellations a day (just as had been
occurring prior to the filing of the Motion), which means that approximately 11,750 members of
the traveling public have had their flights cancelled during the last ten days. And this does not
include the tens of thousands of passengers whose travel plans are being disrupted each day by
late arriving flights and subsequent missed connections and whose baggage has not arrived as
scheduled. During this same time, however, all operational metrics for West pilots remain
normal. Thus, USAPA’s continuing claim that its campaign is about legitimate “safety”
concerns is not credible."
 
This should answer how the company is going to answer the "they're trying to tell pilots how to do their jobs" rebuttal I've seen on these boards:

"US Airways’ pilots are highly trained professionals and do not need to be
told that they should not fly an unsafe aircraft — they know that. So when USAPA repeatedly
emphasizes safety to its members in the midst of labor negotiations, pilots understand that
USAPA is telling them to slowdown in order to disrupt the operation. This is particularly so
where, as here, USAPA does so while also telling pilots there are “strong implications beyond
just safety” and “flying safe” is necessary to get the contract they deserve. The true purpose of
USAPA’s campaign is further confirmed by the fact that the only participants are the “East”
pilots. The East pilots worked for US Airways prior to its merger with America West Airlines in
2005, and are domiciled in Charlotte, D.C., and Philadelphia, and their allegiance to USAPA is
generally stronger than that of the “West pilots,” who worked for America West prior to the
merger, and are domiciled in Phoenix."

So, how fast will USAPA retreat? The company must be laughing at the USAP's and Cleary right now... I know I am! :lol:
 
"The Motion demonstrated concerted, illegal action by USAPA to interfere with and slow
down US Airways’ operations — a breach of the requirement to maintain the status quo under
Section 2, First, of the RLA. Since US Airways filed its Motion, USAPA’s illegal slowdown has
continued, with East pilots causing nine to ten flight cancellations a day (just as had been
occurring prior to the filing of the Motion), which means that approximately 11,750 members of
the traveling public have had their flights cancelled during the last ten days. And this does not
include the tens of thousands of passengers whose travel plans are being disrupted each day by
late arriving flights and subsequent missed connections and whose baggage has not arrived as
scheduled. During this same time, however, all operational metrics for West pilots remain
normal. Thus, USAPA’s continuing claim that its campaign is about legitimate “safety”
concerns is not credible."
 

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