Temporary Injunction against USAPA filed today

[nic4us]

Hey nic,

Do yourself a favor and drop the word "scab" from your posts. Honestly, when I hit that word, I stop reading whatever you write, and you make some good points. We all have a pretty good handle on how you feel.

thx,
breeze

For you breeze....okay..roger wilco.

And, that is really hard, I just use it because I know how much it pisses off babyseals, and similar posters.

However, I reserve the right to call J.Ray a scab any time he comments on usapa's behalf.

 

[Move2CLT]

You are wrong.

The east has no scabs. The west does. Next!

You've got two that are working for USAPA. That says alot about USAPA.

 

[Iclubbabyseals]

You've got two that are working for USAPA. That says alot about USAPA.

Name them, if you dare.

Put your cards on the table or go play somewhere else.

 

[Move2CLT]

Post 1381 names one. And you know the other one.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Crossing the IAM picket line and during the 30 day cooling off period and strike pilots assisted in cleaning planes, thereby performing struck work and violating another labor group's CBA.

And what about the USAPA rep who went to work for Freedom? That would fit the definition too.

Crossing a picket line is one thing. Something that I've never done, not even an organization/informational picket line at say a supermarket. Dad was IBT and I git that drummed in my head early and often. Never worked union though, Dad also instilled a streak of independent thinking, maybe because he knew he wasn't going to be around long (passed when I was 13).

Given the laws of the day it's hard not to cross a picket line when you're in a different union then the one on strike at your company. HOWEVER to go forward and perform some or all of the duties of a striking worker is yet another thing. A bridge way to far for me in fact.

BTW, 700UW has been gnawing on this old bone since I started posting. So no surprise here.

 

[700UW]

Thanks,

SH

When someone stabs you in the back, you learn never to turn your back on them again.

They also screwed the non-union workers back in 1992 also.

Actually it took a judge to order the FAs back to work, they honored our Picket Line and they won the case in arbitration, each labor group at US has language in their CBA that the company cannot discipline any worker who refuse to cross a sanctioned picket line on company property.

 

[Pi brat]

They also screwed the non-union workers back in 1992 also.

I asked you before and don't remember the answer, so again, did ALPA represent non-union workers in 1992? Of which my Dad was a member and he doesn't blame the pilots for what he lost. Must be you, but then again you went out on a strike you couldn't pull off. Poor mechanics, tied to someone like you. I'm sure they are out there, but I've yet to find a pilot that aspired to be a cleaner.

 

[A320 Driver]

I asked you before and don't remember the answer, so again, did ALPA represent non-union workers in 1992? Of which my Dad was a member and he doesn't blame the pilots for what he lost. Must be you, but then again you went out on a strike you couldn't pull off. Poor mechanics, tied to someone like you. I'm sure they are out there, but I've yet to find a pilot that aspired to be a cleaner.

That was the real travesty of the IAM contract. So many unlicensed members diluting the bargaining power of the licensed members. It really drug the mechanics down.

Driver B)

 

[SparrowHawk]

Regarding the actual hearing itself.

Does anyone know if the e-mail from USAPA with comments from a well known certain Captain and F/O were entered into evidence? If yes which side presented the comments made?

 

[700UW]

I asked you before and don't remember the answer, so again, did ALPA represent non-union workers in 1992? Of which my Dad was a member and he doesn't blame the pilots for what he lost. Must be you, but then again you went out on a strike you couldn't pull off. Poor mechanics, tied to someone like you. I'm sure they are out there, but I've yet to find a pilot that aspired to be a cleaner.

The company made it quite clear, that if one organized group would take concessions they would impose it on the non-union workers.

They lost their pensions, no more sick time nor vacation, replaced with PDOs, (less time) cut 40% of the workforce to part-time, outsourced, mail, freight, express work and most of catering. No more oji protection either, mass layoffs and increase of insurance to $300 a month for part timers, shall I continue?



Then why did I file hundreds of grievances during the 30 day cooling off period when pilots were found cleaning planes?

I was busy going from flight to flight to get names and payroll #s of crews cleaning planes, I was taken off the regular work schedule as the Shop Steward.

That was the real travesty of the IAM contract. So many unlicensed members diluting the bargaining power of the licensed members. It really drug the mechanics down.

Driver B)

Once again you show your ignorance of the RLA, the NMB sets class and craft, not the union, there were over 6,000 mechanics and less than 1,000 Utility, shall I do the math for you or can you figure that out all on your own?

And many utility went to Dalfort in CLT and got their A&P licenses and are still mechanics to this day.

And once again, one's classification does not set their knowledge nor education level, I was the first utility person ever to be appointed to the negotiating committee, was a ramper, then utility, stock clerk, then utility, then stock clerk.

And I presented and won a $15 million dollar arbitration case for utility and mechanics against the company, what have you done to help your coworkers?

 

[Pi brat]

The company made it quite clear, that if one organized group would take concessions they would impose it on the non-union workers.

They lost their pensions, no more sick time nor vacation, replaced with PDOs, (less time) cut 40% of the workforce to part-time, outsourced, mail, freight, express work and most of catering. No more oji protection either, mass layoffs and increase of insurance to $300 a month for part timers, shall I continue?



Then why did I file hundreds of grievances during the 30 day cooling off period when pilots were found cleaning planes?

I was busy going from flight to flight to get names and payroll #s of crews cleaning planes, I was taken off the regular work schedule as the Shop Steward.

Still no answer, what a surprise. Was ALPA the CBA of non-union employees? Just answer it.

I don't know why you were taken off your important duties. Trying to find some evidence? I never saw it and don't believe it.

The concessions given by pilots kept you in a job longer than you would have been otherwise. Is that why you are mad? It kept you from moving on to a real job earlier?

 

[700UW]

If a tree falls in the woods and you dont see it, does it still fall and make a sound?

 

[700UW]

I find it amazing how a poster cant refute or debate and has to insult and attack.

 

[Pi brat]

I find it amazing how a poster cant refute or debate and has to insult and attack.

I asked you a question that you have yet to answer, yet you say someone can't debate!?

 

[A320 Driver]

And I presented and won a $15 million dollar arbitration case for utility and mechanics against the company, what have you done to help your coworkers?

Maybe it's never dawned on you, but what we do around here to make money is haul people and cargo around in aluminum tubes. It's called Flight Operations.

Everything else is a support function of that...get used to it.


Driver B)