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On 2/28/2003 3:09:09 PM PineyBob wrote:
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On 2/28/2003 2:43:59 PM DELLDUDE wrote:
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On 2/28/2003 1:29:10 PM mrplanes wrote:
No gil, management ended Eastern. Management ended Braniff. Management ended Pan Am. And management will either save or end USAirways. Labor does not make the decisions. Management does.
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now you are sending out that "old style unionism" that you accused me of still adhering to.in case you didn't notice,the IAM proved some assinine point at eastern. don't give that mularky about labor doesn't make any decisions...your MEC make you happy last time they brought you your 'package"....management decide for you to cross IAM picket lines in 92?you better read your posts...you sound worse than me.hehehe.i'm sure,you'll say 'just wait'....well bring it on DUDE
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Did he really post that?? That unions had nothing to do with the demise of those companies?? Interesting!!
If that statement is correct then there is no reason for a union. You should all ask for your dues back! Demand a FULL REFUND! RIGHT NOW!
If mrplanes is right, that means that all those miners that died in the WV Coal Field Wars in order to earn enough to keep their babies from starving needn't have bothered because management would be responsible. Their attempts to be paid in US currency instead of company script was all for naught! The workers shot at the gates the Bethlehem Steel rose up to protest the inate fairness and resonableness of management I guess. And the American Labor Movement had NOTHING to do with formation of the most vibrant middle class and consumer economy in recorded history.
If all of those strides made by labor were good, then doesn't logic dictate that from time to time such a noble conflict as the Labor movement might possibly go a "bridge to far" in pursuit of their noble cause?? Eastern being one example.
I just love the hypocracy, ALPA sounds like the sheep in Orwell's novel Animal Farm, "Four Legs Good, Two Legs, Bad"
Keep drinking the ALPA Kool Aid! Wait until you find out that they threw the US pilots under the liquidation bus in order to preserve the pay scale, benefits of the other 5 majors. Think it can't happen, Look at the UAW Mack Trucks struggle.
Oh wait!!! That was managements fault too! I forgot that management made the int UAW reject the concessionary deal in order to preserve the wage scale at John Deere. 1800 mack UAW got screwed to save 5,000 at Deere. Explain how that one was management's fault.
PS: Never let fact get in the way of your response mrplanes.
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DID SOMEBODY MENTION 'KOOLAID' AGAIN,BOB?