View PostPITbull, on 24 August 2012 - 03:35 PM, said:
"Here is what he wrote about the new T/A for the f/as:
This whole union is #ucked up. – We have lost control – they replaced a narcissist with – idiots at the helm. Everything is so politicized (now International is soo involved/they are frothing at the mouth waiting for this ‘merger’- they see $$signs..hoping AA votes for AFA) –
…Many of us are exhausted fighting with them/screaming about issues to deaf ears. My vote is still no. They did nothing but shuffle some papers and numbers…but I expected nothing more from the so called ‘leaders’ at the table ...Joe Burns/staff attorney negotiated as those at the table were too stupid to negotiate or fight….I suspect C Austin was in the background somewhere…she has disappeared….- like where’s waldo…
We are hearing the same ‘ole ####…AFA wanted more..we could not get it….blah blah..AA merger..blah blah..protection for the West blah blah…
In 2004, we ( east f/as) were promised by our union, we would get what we sacrificed for this company back…we got a measly…what?? a buck and a half more than our 2004 top out date of signing (took 12 years to get this)..? paid 100 for sick but less accrual, no increase in vacation, a disparate CSD program favoring the more senior f/a, reserves seniority taken/no choice in trips at time of assignment if ‘the grouping’ is closed…separation from pilots, pref bid – got nothing for this..at all ( company making a bundle on this) – possible change in medical costs during the course of the agreement –at company digression…duty time changes for International to 18 hours – irregular ops – today – we go home and get paid for trip after 16…god there is so much more…It makes me sick. – the union even allowed the company to take back $20.00 for uniform cleaning(in January TA) – pay for training goes back to $75.00 – instead of ‘captured’ hourly pay (in January TA) – how friggin stupid can they be..?
We were not in section 6 – still in merger negotiations. – yes it has been 7 and ½ /8 years. –
Just cannot deal with it anymore."
Quoted from Bungeejumper ::
"I hope you shared the correct information with the person who emailed you, and encouraged them to attend the Information Sessions to express their concerns. They were incorrect on at least two items:
- "reserves seniority taken/no choice in trips at time of assignment if ‘the grouping’ is closed". Reserve FA still have a choice in trips. The Future Scheuling Award and Assignment section J.7.B in the TA says: "At the Reserve’s time of processing, if the grouping to which the Reserve belongs is Closed, the Reserve must select a pairing from her/his grouping, except as provided for in Paragraph 12.J.8.a.
Example: The fifth (5th) Reserve to be processed has three (3) AVL days followed by a Moveable Day. The Reserve belongs to the three (3) day grouping. At the Reserve’s time of processing, the grouping to which the Reserve belongs is Closed. The Reserve must select any three (3) day pairing for which they are legal."
- "paid 100 for sick but less accrual". This isn't a takeaway, the sick leave paid is an increase. See this from OurAFA.org: 54 hours accrual per year. (Current East is 60 hours at 70 percent pay; Current West is 45 hours at 100 percent paid only up to 75 hours. This produces a 29% increase in potential sick leave pay on the East and a 20% increase in potential sick leave pay on the West, plus the ability to carry over from year to year.)"
This may not change their vote, but at least they'll be voting with the right information."
Thank you Bungeejumper for correcting the uneducated, uninformed,non-roadshow going, non-video watching zombies who are so stuck in the past that they can't even listen to their own NO voting leaders.
Zombie No voters. There is NO explanation.
Morons.