The New Us Airways
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Now now Rico, dont be fibbing,
We know you left Alleghany voluntarily to come to MDA, you still would have had a job with Alleghany your job flying a plane at that carrier was not phased out, the company is offering preferential hiring to jobs that do not exsist. So there is no choice to be made
We know you left Alleghany voluntarily to come to MDA, you still would have had a job with Alleghany your job flying a plane at that carrier was not phased out, the company is offering preferential hiring to jobs that do not exsist. So there is no choice to be made
Rico said:
Lets face it - airline labor gets no respect in todays society. Todays society values popular things that they are knowledgeable about. They really don't know much about aviation so they draw a blank picture in thier minds and consider it of little value. Anyone who works for the airlines might as well be a freak in a side show. I don't know how many times people have implied to me that I have moved up going from a UAIR AMT to a computer network tech. It has proven to me how naive and ignorant people are to real achievement. I guess at this point the thing to do is go with what society values for practical reasons and just know that I got to experience something better than most people ever will. One other thing - I can no longer recommend UAIR to anyone because it is not the same airline that I worked at for 16 years. It's a piece of crap airline that got rid of its best everything. At this point I wish the name would go away to make the transition complete. Children like Walmart better than UAIR. How bout Wallyair! People love to go there but wouldn't want to work there! Dress the pilots like french fry clowns or kings. The suit and tie days of the airlines are over. All I can do now is laugh!
Umm, no 700UW, I would have not been able to hold left seat at ALG anymore, even with 8 years there, six of which were as Captain. So I chose to take a chance and move over to MDA rather then languish in what has become of ALG.
The pilots that are still there are stuck in between what was ALG, and what will eventually be merged into PDT..., But that supposed merger of the two pilot groups just keeps getting put off again and again. In the meantime they keep subtracting aircraft and closing ALG bases, so the fact is that I would have not been Captain anymore. "phased out" is exactly what happened. So I chose MDA now rather than PDT whenever.
Regardless...
The fact still remains sport, that you are responsible to make your own choices. Crying about things will not change a thing. Grown ups look at the choices they have, and then decide which offers them the most. In my case it was moving to MDA.
In your case, you may or may not have a FSA job soon, but attrition means that one WILL be avail eventually. US Airways being out of business does not give you that option. And all of the other advantages that this agreement has, outweigh your selfish desire to hold out for some other kind of deal.
Cause like you said, you are probably scheduled to be outsourced anyways, and after that happens you will look stupid for not having taken what was offered now.
Something is better than nothing. A future with choices is better than no future at all... Making personal attacks towards me (or my choice)s will NOT change those two facts.
The pilots that are still there are stuck in between what was ALG, and what will eventually be merged into PDT..., But that supposed merger of the two pilot groups just keeps getting put off again and again. In the meantime they keep subtracting aircraft and closing ALG bases, so the fact is that I would have not been Captain anymore. "phased out" is exactly what happened. So I chose MDA now rather than PDT whenever.
Regardless...
The fact still remains sport, that you are responsible to make your own choices. Crying about things will not change a thing. Grown ups look at the choices they have, and then decide which offers them the most. In my case it was moving to MDA.
In your case, you may or may not have a FSA job soon, but attrition means that one WILL be avail eventually. US Airways being out of business does not give you that option. And all of the other advantages that this agreement has, outweigh your selfish desire to hold out for some other kind of deal.
Cause like you said, you are probably scheduled to be outsourced anyways, and after that happens you will look stupid for not having taken what was offered now.
Something is better than nothing. A future with choices is better than no future at all... Making personal attacks towards me (or my choice)s will NOT change those two facts.
Hey rico I"m with you. Airline careers as we knew them are over. It sucks but its over. I'm gonna stick around for a while and see what I can make out of whats left. Maybe we can go back to having a good time once in a while. If after all is said and done I can't do it I'm just going to go. I'm sick of being angry all the time. Everyone has the right to be angry about this,but when your done just let it go.Rico said:Yeah whatever 700UW, feel free to give up and leave anytime you want, the rest of us will try to stick around and try to make it work.
Look, just because the glamor of the airline industry is nothing like this anymore...
Does not mean it is without merit as a profession to some of us.
It is your choice to change careers if you cannot handle the way things have developed, but just like the changes that occured since the "golden age of airlines", the kind of flying that the consumer now demands will force us to adapt or die as an carrier.
Deal with it. Just stop whining already...
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I guess you don't understand. You could have held right seat and not forced to leave the company. You made the choice to leave ALG and go to MDA, the company did not lay you off.
The company is cutting 15% of the fleet service jobs, that is over 600 fleet service jobs lost, please explain to me how any of the 798 utility will get a job on the ramp when those 600 people getting furloughed will have first choice before any utility, even if you add the 200 jobs open in PHL that still leaves 400 rampers ahead of any utility. Also any mechanic and related laid off employee will be offered prefential hiring, that does not mean they will get a job if or when one opens.
So if you have 600 fleet and 1,938 M&R being cut, explain how 2,338 left after the 200 jobs in PHL get filled will ever get a job?
You can keep dodging but I will still be here to ask you until you answer.
The company is cutting 15% of the fleet service jobs, that is over 600 fleet service jobs lost, please explain to me how any of the 798 utility will get a job on the ramp when those 600 people getting furloughed will have first choice before any utility, even if you add the 200 jobs open in PHL that still leaves 400 rampers ahead of any utility. Also any mechanic and related laid off employee will be offered prefential hiring, that does not mean they will get a job if or when one opens.
So if you have 600 fleet and 1,938 M&R being cut, explain how 2,338 left after the 200 jobs in PHL get filled will ever get a job?
You can keep dodging but I will still be here to ask you until you answer.
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I think the point was, 700.....your trying to blame everyone else for their decision, because you disagree with it. I think the poster was trying to say, after all these years of turbulent times, where was the LEADERSHIP who should have seen this coming, and do something about it years ago!!! But, noooo, its easier to blame the guys on the floor instead of the guys in the (clown)suits!!! GOOD DAY!!! :down:700UW said:
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Rico is right.....Rico said:
Stay till the end if thats your choice.....why disparage those who want to stay, 700?
Maybe they want to try and make it work...bitter guys like yourself will just not let that happen, and the sad fact is, you seem happy about that! All you ever have to babble about is the "corporate bad guys", never the unions' incompetance! Don't misunderstand...as I have said before, there is much blame at managements feet!! But, we have all seen this coming for a LONG time!!! Some on here just refuse to accept that the days are getting shorter.....and the fat lady is about to sing for some, if not all... I have been gone for 2 1/2 months, after 17 years,and I can tell you, there is a WHOLE world out there just waiting to be tapped into! Of course, you can't see that way because you are blinded by your absolute faith in your unionism! Not that this is a bad thing, but you have no conception of the world if it does not involve a union.......truly sad!! Take me for example, i'm not working for a huge Coporation, or those mean, nasty "non-union" corporate types!!!! You know, dude.....there really is life after USAiways!!!!
GOOD DAY!!!!I put in resume with the MBTA here in Boston to drive the subway. They pay well, its a city job and they have great retirement. I'm gonna stick around for a while just because I still like this job. They put me in an interview que. I am # 6,452 to get an interview. It may be a little strange to go from 35000 ft for 20 years to underground. I don't think they will get to me for a few years. Maybe by then this mess will be done.Borescope said:
