For about 2 years we have been hearing that TWA FA''s gave Ozark FA''s DOH because it was the right thing to do. Well finally after letting people believe that crapola for this long the truth has been set free.
Ozark FA''s received DOH because of a weak crumbling striking union, and a lawsuit.
Taken from Smilin Jacks board. (Hey if TWAnr can do it, I can too.)
TRUTHSQUAD!
For the record, the only reason the OZA flight attendants got seniority {DOH} is do to the fact that Murial Foco and the OZ mec went to court early on and the judge ruled against IFFA. The initial attempt was to put all OZA F/a''s on the bottom. IFFA never appealed the decision and it stood. There was no group hug initially with OZ-TWA.
Btw, the OZ ruling would make excellent president in the upcoming lawsuit. I flew with Murial a couple of weeks ago and she said no one had approached her for any of the information on the ruling!
Bill
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TWA''s F/A union, IFFA: DID NOT offer the OZA F/A''s DOH.
The union F/A''s at TWA were engaged in a disasterous strike. Most of the working TWA f/a''s were replacement workers or cross overs at the time of the merger.
The Assn. Of Flight Attendants(AFA); a major national flight attendant union, to which the OZA flight attendants belonged; staged a representation effort on the TWA property. Given the dissheveled circumstances that existed, it is very likely that the AFA would have succeeded in replacing the independant TWA F/A union...IFFA.
IFFA, understanding their weak position, agreed.... when the AFA offered to drop the organization effort...IF!!....the TWA IFFA would grant the OZA F/A''s DOH. Frankly the AFA was in no mood to take on a new airline of F/A''s made up largly of strike breakers. But they played their hand on behalf of the OZA f/a''s.
And so it was.
Politics pure and simple; as usually is the case. There was nothing high minded about the integration. Just a matter of IFFA being in a terribly vunerable position and the AFA looking out for the former OZA F/A''s.
Despite some snide remarks early one; soon the TWA and former OZA flight attendants got along famously.
I would add, that to be best of my knowledge, the IFFA never considered stapling the OZA f/a''s. They were far more fair minded than the AA flight attendants union ever was.
Motivation aside...it is true that the OZA f/a'' got DOH and it was a good deal for them. As Paul Harvey says....The rest of the story.
Bob Ritchie
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So there you have it, one person says they tried to staple but were beat to the punch by a lawsuit, the other person says stapling was never suggested. You be the Judge, so not one more person should be saying it was done because it was the right thing to do, because thats bull and I knew it was all along.
You AA FA''s make sure to post this on your private board and pass to your union for further investigation.
Thanks.
Ozark FA''s received DOH because of a weak crumbling striking union, and a lawsuit.
Taken from Smilin Jacks board. (Hey if TWAnr can do it, I can too.)
TRUTHSQUAD!
For the record, the only reason the OZA flight attendants got seniority {DOH} is do to the fact that Murial Foco and the OZ mec went to court early on and the judge ruled against IFFA. The initial attempt was to put all OZA F/a''s on the bottom. IFFA never appealed the decision and it stood. There was no group hug initially with OZ-TWA.
Btw, the OZ ruling would make excellent president in the upcoming lawsuit. I flew with Murial a couple of weeks ago and she said no one had approached her for any of the information on the ruling!
Bill
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TWA''s F/A union, IFFA: DID NOT offer the OZA F/A''s DOH.
The union F/A''s at TWA were engaged in a disasterous strike. Most of the working TWA f/a''s were replacement workers or cross overs at the time of the merger.
The Assn. Of Flight Attendants(AFA); a major national flight attendant union, to which the OZA flight attendants belonged; staged a representation effort on the TWA property. Given the dissheveled circumstances that existed, it is very likely that the AFA would have succeeded in replacing the independant TWA F/A union...IFFA.
IFFA, understanding their weak position, agreed.... when the AFA offered to drop the organization effort...IF!!....the TWA IFFA would grant the OZA F/A''s DOH. Frankly the AFA was in no mood to take on a new airline of F/A''s made up largly of strike breakers. But they played their hand on behalf of the OZA f/a''s.
And so it was.
Politics pure and simple; as usually is the case. There was nothing high minded about the integration. Just a matter of IFFA being in a terribly vunerable position and the AFA looking out for the former OZA F/A''s.
Despite some snide remarks early one; soon the TWA and former OZA flight attendants got along famously.
I would add, that to be best of my knowledge, the IFFA never considered stapling the OZA f/a''s. They were far more fair minded than the AA flight attendants union ever was.
Motivation aside...it is true that the OZA f/a'' got DOH and it was a good deal for them. As Paul Harvey says....The rest of the story.
Bob Ritchie
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So there you have it, one person says they tried to staple but were beat to the punch by a lawsuit, the other person says stapling was never suggested. You be the Judge, so not one more person should be saying it was done because it was the right thing to do, because thats bull and I knew it was all along.
You AA FA''s make sure to post this on your private board and pass to your union for further investigation.
Thanks.