I have read most of the posts for the vote no mind set, and it all comes down to hoping the judge will reach a favorable decision for the mechanics. When you look at the complete and very big picture, your vote no decision is simply based in fantasy. It is not based on actual facts, it canâ€™t be. That is why there is going to be another vote, so people can clear their heads of fantasy. Read Chipâ€™s posts on the facts that are all public record, but he posts here for your easy read and understanding. Dave is letting another vote happen, NOT because he is afraid of a no vote, but to simply avoid all the hardships it will cause. Dave is not a top of the cl*** Harvard graduate playing a Frank Lorenzo ploy, he is what he says he is, a straight shooter trying to save a failing airline and most of the jobs with it. Why would he want to be the a young and very much hated Frank Lorenzo all over again! I can understand some of this. Itâ€™s labeled The Steel Mill Mentality, a Pittsburgh first along with the labor unions. I have lived long enough to see what that mentality can accomplish, and here is what it â€œhelpedâ€, not caused, to happen: All of the BIG steel mill plants that ran for miles along the rivers of Pittsburgh are gone, but thatâ€™s only the beginning. Westinghouse and all its plants, Rockwell International, Dravo, Mesta Machine, Wean United, Brauns Bakery, Babcox & Wilcox, Union Switch & Signal, most of the unionized food chains, such Kroger and A&P, Thorafare, and Duquesne Brewery, on and on and on equaling thousands of jobs. I remember a friend who worked at Dravo when they were in the same situation we find ourselves in. He said: I donâ€™t care, I say VOTE no and let them shut it down, well we all know they did indeed shut it down. He lived the rest of his life working very hard at less than half the money and died last year at age 51. Many of the steel workers that lost their jobs and also many of their sons now work at U, because it is the best game in town without requiring undergraduate studies and a college degree to earn a very livable wage. Go to a tech school and get your A&P and youâ€™re good to go. Unfortunately these same people bring with them the kind of attitude we are now seeing, which is, I DONâ€™T CARE, SHUT IT DOWN. If you are too young to remember ask you parents what happened around here, and if you actually lived it and went through it all and still want to vote no, then donâ€™t be surprised when U joins the ranks of the companies I mentioned.