Tit For Tat

[BoeingBoy]

Pollock's Letter to the PIT Trib-Review

Mispredicting US Airways' death

Cordle's response

Cordle's response

Jim

 

[ua767fo]

Pollock's Letter to the PIT Trib-Review

Mispredicting US Airways' death

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Captain Pollock's letter is certainly an amateur piece of empty diatribe. He appears to be a real light weight. No wonder the USAirways pilots got steam rolled by management.

Denver, CO

 

[Rico]

I have thought that Mr Cordle"s viewpoint is meant only to distract others from his own carriers weakened state and cloudy future.

Anyways, he was wrong before, and it will be fun to prove him wrong again.

 

[Finish or Ignore]

It is difficult to make the strategic and economic case that US Airways can exist as a stand-alone airline, at least in its current form. More than 200 managers have fled the company, employee morale is rock bottom and its balance sheet is exceptionally weak -- negative $3.4 billion in tangible equity. It is a regional airline with seat-mile costs 50 percent higher than Southwest's, and the company ranks near the bottom in terms of earnings and customer service. With the right cost structure and improved employee morale, the company has a window of opportunity to survive.


Vaughn Cordle
Washington, D.C.

He obviously does not know about our new plastic buttons and banners!

 

[zonecontroller]

Also, during the 1985 United pilots union strike, Capt. Cordle crossed the pilots' picket line. Although his actions jeopardized that strike, he was still the beneficiary of everything that the United pilots attained following the strike's resolution.

ONCE A SCAB ALWAYS A SCAB!

 

[nycbusdriver]

He obviously does not know about our new plastic buttons and banners!

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ROTFLOL!!!!

 

[nycbusdriver]

Hell I was asked to write for a web publication because of my activities here. I declined as I don't even know what MEL stands for. Credilibility is important to me and I don't know enough yet to be credible other than from the customer point of view.

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Have at it, Piney. If you wait until you know "enough," you will never do it because just exactly what is "enough?"

Be a responsible journalist though and make use of qualified consultants who can enlighten you on questions like: "What does MEL stand for?" 90% of aviation articles in mainstream publications contain blatant, laughable errors which could have been avoided with a phone call to a knowledgeable consultant. The problem is that most aviation writers/consultants actually believe they already know "enough," but usually fall far short. Their solution is to deduce things based on flawed assumptions and almost always get it wrong.

Piney, you can do this if you do it right. The most important thing in your favor is that you already realize that you don't know "enough." Responsible research is the cure for that. Good luck!

 

[javaboy]

great another "airline expert"

why ? took a CPA test?
started a web based company (60 bucks) calls himself ceo?
knows soundbite type words so he can get media airtime?


amazes me. how many professionals there are out there that go to work every day do their jobs with outstanding abilities and skills and you never hear about them pine(ing) for the camera or 15mins of fame.

what was his opinion of UAL? DAL? CAL? NWAC? now its all pension trouble does he even remember FASB 106 rule change? How do ATA HAWAIIAN UAIR UAL all compare balance sheet wise being that all are currently in bankrupcty proceedings? how did IFLY avoid this fate.

OIL now over 51.00 bbl give it about oh i say 48hrs then here come the experts... airlines can not effectively control their biggest expense (FUEL) so they go to the next expense within thier control (employee costs).

another expert........................

you ever see those bumper stickers hang up and drive.........

how about shut up and fly.....?

 

[justaumechanic]

I think Bill is a bit off base..

First lets revisit his "crossed the picket line" comment..

Don't like it, why did you and ALPA allow him to remain in the union? Like you always do.. So he can pay dues like the rest.. If he crossed in my eye's you should have thrown him out.. No different in the IAM strike.. Guys crossed and should have been thrown out of the union..

But no.. Whats that little item they always put in at the end.. No punitive action will be taken against anyone who did anything for or against the company during the strike.. So the union accepts him with open arms even though he violated their most important tool in negotiations..

I think Mr Pollock needs to get his foot out of his two faced mouth and fight for the important crap and not write an article about some dumb ass from UAL..

Does Mr Cordle bring out some good points? He sure does.. The hole US Airways is in is deep, really deep.. So read between the lines.. He basically says US Airways has a huge climb to get to Zero.. Friggin Zero.. Thats their goal.. To get out of the 3.4 billion dollar hole they are in.. Mean while LUV, jetBlue and AirTran are sitting on a collective 3 -5 billion in cash.. Never mind the assets.. Pure cash..

Cordle is just writing what everyone else is thinking..

 

[delldude]

cordle makes light of the still higher than everyone else ops costs...just like the last 2 or 3 times we had givebacks....so wtf has changed??
just buying time to live to die another day........ :down:

 

[EyeInTheSky]

It cracks me up all these people that tout themselves as "airline experts." There are NO airline experts anymore; the business is the poster child for dysfunctional, irrational methods of business madness. Given the sorry state of the industry we are going to have to deal with irrational, dysfunctional commentary from scary people in the media who 'think' they know it all.

 

[d9ever]

I think Bill is a bit off base..

First lets revisit his "crossed the picket line" comment..

Don't like it, why did you and ALPA allow him to remain in the union? Like you always do.. So he can pay dues like the rest.. If he crossed in my eye's you should have thrown him out.. No different in the IAM strike.. Guys crossed and should have been thrown out of the union..

But no.. Whats that little item they always put in at the end.. No punitive action will be taken against anyone who did anything for or against the company during the strike.. So the union accepts him with open arms even though he violated their most important tool in negotiations..

I think Mr Pollock needs to get his foot out of his two faced mouth and fight for the important crap and not write an article about some dumb ass from UAL..

Does Mr Cordle bring out some good points? He sure does.. The hole US Airways is in is deep, really deep.. So read between the lines.. He basically says US Airways has a huge climb to get to Zero.. Friggin Zero.. Thats their goal.. To get out of the 3.4 billion dollar hole they are in.. Mean while LUV, jetBlue and AirTran are sitting on a collective 3 -5 billion in cash.. Never mind the assets.. Pure cash..




Cordle is just writing what everyone else is thinking..

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[RowUnderDCA]

So, is Cordle really that SHOCKED that folks might question his credibility? I notice that he doesn't speak to his qualifications. He only states that he's a UAL pilot, so 'so what?'

Well, maybe a whole hell of a lot. It's his sense that he's entitled to respect that's kind of full of it. " I am a fairly well-known analyst and airline pilot, which has nothing to do with what I write or say as an analyst. "

Well, Ok if you say so. Seems kind of bushian to me.

 

[mweiss]

In the end, though, it all sounds like "can't discredit the message, so let's discredit the messenger." Cordle's actions in the past don't change the facts at present, nor do they make his statements false.

 

[EyeInTheSky]

mweiss, desparate times call for desparate commentary. Point blank, US Airways' is way past expiration date with all the other airlnes and quite frankly they have a 'sour' taste in their mouth. This (US Airways survival) is driving them nuts. A Delta pilot was talking with one of our pilots in the security line the other day and he says: "I don't know how you guys stay in business", the US Airways' pilot shot back, "For a company that lost 2.5 billion in one quarter I don't know how you guys stay in business either." The Delta guy shut up real quick.