Twu Ad - Aa Gets Hit Again

[Steve Connell]

So Buck..what you stated is that anyone who runs to management is far from a union man. Handle it on the floor and through your union.

I guess then when you have a contractual issue then you keep it inhouse and do not seek compensation from management. That is your belief? By the way Buck..I would be more than happy to settle my disputes inhouse...but that would put me in the unemployment line with the rest of NWA.

My unionism is not at question...it is your inability to work within your union that lacks backbone...and I should get off the oath issue? You need to counsel with AMFABOY more...seems your scruples are inline with his...nonexistent. You expect one's word is worthless...that is sad.

 

[TonyB]

Some union man you are! Running to management like a toddler running to mommy. Well Steve at least you're open about being a rat. Most rats are sneaky rats.
I don't envy you. You have to look in the mirror and live with yourself as a RAT.

But enough insults. You TWU boys can't name one thing the TWU has done to keep the privilige of representing our class and craft so you resort to cheap shots and other bafoonery. The only reason you support the TWU is because there's something in it for you. You guys are weak contemptible and make me want to puke.

 

[Buck]

Steve, I guess I thought more of you?

Handle it on the floor, to you means to seek compensation from managment without seeking assistance from your collective bargaining agent? In house means to let the process of the grievence system protect your contractual rights.

Steve how many employees have been laid off from TWA?

Yes your unionism is in question, do the names RAT and Management Bootlicker spark your memory? And remember those are not my words, those are of other members and that type of stuff spreads like wildfire. And it is you that has admitted that you run to management to RAT your fellow mechanics out.

My scruples, keep me from ratting on fellow union men and women.

 

[Raptor]

Steve Connell quote what a suck ass crybaby RAT

TonyB..will I go to management...you bet...got a problem with that? If so..come see me ... by the way Tony..I don't need to be provoked to go to management...you want the TWU to walk the line..so will you...problemo?

Ratboy Steve ( I will tell if you try to promote AMFA here where I am )
you are done steve its over dude give it up, I hear the TWU bus drivers are hiring you had better go and put in an application, cause you know everyone out there wants to be a TWU boy, if you hurry you can beat them.

Steve I think you will be gone soon and while I will not like to see the few decent Mechanics at MCI without a job, I will be looking forward to you being unemployeed, I trust you will no longer feel the need to post on the boards once you are unemployeed.

MCI will shut down soon thanks to Mr. Steve Connell who could not stop AMFA or the company, all he could do is cry cry cry


This on is for you Steve

8103 Total Signed Election Authorization Cards by Station and Title Group (From system seniority list dated 02-12-2003):
Updated, Thursday September 25, 2003 at 11:48:58 PM. Our goal is to obtain 60% of the Craft and Class of
Mechanic and Related, and at this time, our estimate of that number, with 'elbow room' is approximately 10,000 cards.
Using that number, at this time, we are about 81.0% to our goal, or approximately 50.0% of our Craft and Class. Good job so far, and let's
REDOUBLE our efforts and GET THIS DONE!

 

[Steve Connell]

Your unionism is what feeds my fire...the fact that the AMFA movement wants the TWU to walk the line so should AMFA. Ask me to sign a card on the clock and see where you'll be. I have no problem looking in a mirror...and I have no problem with the likes of these boys in here calling me names...but ya notice they do it from a keyboard and not to my face...wonder why?...also Buck..I do not believe you have the right nor power to question anyone's unionism...or do you in fact set the standard?

 

[TonyB]

Steve considers himself an honorable man because he took some Mickey Mouse oath to the IAM/TWU. His standards for honor aren't very high.
When a new recruit is sworn into the armed forces he also takes an oath. He is bound by this oath to obey all orders from a superior provided they are lawful orders When that line is crossed the order is no longer to be obeyed.
The same applies in this situation. While I personaly have never taken an oath to this pathetic union I know elected officers do.When I was in Tulsa I know local 514 made new members take the oath to the Grand Poobah at the SACRED ALTAR OF THE BUS.
TWU/IAM lackeys hold themselves to their Mickey Mouse oath but they don't realize that they sell themselves short. That is because they have a low sense of esteem and worth wich comes from being an industrial unionist. That however, is another subject.
You clowns let the TWU off light. Just as you hold yourself to your oath you don't hold the TWU to it's responsibility You forget that the TWU has a fiduciary duty to represent your best interest and to elevate your standard of living. In both it hasFAILED MISERABLY You forget that the TWU WORKS FORYOUand not the other way around. The TWU is not doing it's job so it needs to be TERMINATED
Of course rat lackeys like Steve will never understand. They are happy parroting lies and slogans like the useful idiots(no I didn't coin it) that they are.

TWU, AMERICAN'S ENFORCER!

 

[Buck]

Your unionism is what feeds my fire...the fact that the AMFA movement wants the TWU to walk the line so should AMFA. Ask me to sign a card on the clock and see where you'll be. I have no problem looking in a mirror...and I have no problem with the likes of these boys in here calling me names...but ya notice they do it from a keyboard and not to my face...wonder why?...also Buck..I do not believe you have the right nor power to question anyone's unionism...or do you in fact set the standard?

I cannot speak for the organizers who seem to harass you Steve. My guess from past postings, is if I ask you to sign a card on the clock you would run to management. You could just say no thanks or even say no and defend your TWU.
I have no doubt that looking in the mirror is not a problem for you, you stepped across the once already by your admission. I know you had your reason.

And what would you do if they called you names to your face Steve? Violate Rule 32? Give me break, one on one you would do nothing but get yourself in trouble.
The more you tough talk the less respect I have for you. But that does not matter to you. The more you try to hold on to archaic industrial union principles the less respect you will receive.

The right or power to question ones position? I have all the right and power in the world, it's called the United States Constitution. That is the document that sets the standard. I have no doubts that you in socialistic beliefs of industrial unionism that you are the top dog. How about some democracy?

 

[410OhOne]

The airline assured concerned lawmakers before a US Senate hearing in February 2001, they would maintain good corporate citizenship in St. Louis by sustaining vital hub operations for the benefit of the Bi-State region.

So in Feb 2001 AA made a commitment? Did everyone forget what happened in SEPT 2001? 3000 people dead, first attack on US since Panco Villa, airline industry and AA demolished and already people have moved on and forgotten. Nothing like living in Denial!

It is big business corporate thinking posts like this one that make me believe everyone of us are lining up like sheep for a slaughter. Hey AAMECH, yeah I believe I saw the same thing you did and experienced the aftermath. Did you go to the sand? I did. Now understand this. The idiot in the white house now has one interest in mind. That is oil, oil flowing through Afghanistan from the Caspian Sea. It is a pipeline he wants , and will get now that the Taliban is removed and his leader of choice is put in place. Wake up. GW hijacked the war on terrorism for his own and his fellow oil execs gain. Where is Osama? I will tell you where he is. He is in bed with GW in Saudi. Do not fall for AA bankruptcy threats, do not fall for Weapons of Mass Destruction. You and and the rest of us alike must realize that big business jumped on the 9/11 bandwagon to completely destroy the working man, and with posts like yours supporting them we havent a chance.

 

[410OhOne]

TonyB..will I go to management...you bet...got a problem with that? If so..come see me ... by the way Tony..I don't need to be provoked to go to management...you want the TWU to walk the line..so will you...problemo?

I have read for months the arguments between the industrial unions and the trade unions. I have read nothing recently that would prevent me from voting AMFA in the upcoming election. Steve, I ask you to provide me three good reasons to continue to support the TWU. I am eagerly waiting your response. If you would like to discuss this face to face I am also at MCI Bay 8, midnights though. Meet you in the snack area.

 

[Steve Connell]

Buck...You may think less of me for standing my ground and staying loyal to my local..that's your right. I treat AMFA supporters as they have treated me, no less, and at times possibly more. To this I do not hide and they know how I feel and how I will respond.And what is it that you consider I did to "step across the line?" AMFA comes onto my floor, against my contract, and you want me to embrace them? They show up at times of duress, as they did with the IAM, and tell us how we need this and that and how the almighty AMFA is the answer.

I make no bones about this fact...I witness any promotion of AMFA on my floor, brother or no brother, you will be dealt with accordingly. I do not sneak nor hide this fact. I will continue to respect AMFA as AMFA has my union.

You need 3 reasons to continue your support of the TWU..name me one way you have supported them locally lately. How have you supported your local 530 leadership? I'd be more than happy to meet you anywhere...shall I look for an ID badge that reads 410ohone? Or shall I just see ya at the inspection desk? If you are so shallow to give allegiance for 3 reasons of anything you might need to rethink... you honestly think that any item will be different with AMFA? Let's see..I have heard accountability from AMFA for months now...explain that please...I get to re-elect officials everytime I do not like their platform? I think we'd run out of candidates in a week. I know...management is scared of AMFA's prowness, their ability to say to to any concessions, rather seeing brothers on the street than to give up a dollar...makes sense to me, as long as you're the one on the unemployment line wearing your AMFA Now t-shirt...

...just one thing bothers me..in AMFA's constitution, preamble, page 1...it talks of respecting the seniority rights of others..is this respect only at certain times or circumstances?

 

[410OhOne]

You need 3 reasons to continue your support of the TWU..name me one way you have supported them locally lately. How have you supported your local 530 leadership? I'd be more than happy to meet you anywhere...shall I look for an ID badge that reads 410ohone?

Funny you should mention that. Thanks to the support of the Industrial Internationals and AFL-CIO all of our badges actually read 4/10/01. Thus my screen name. I will be glad to meet you at the inspection desk at the end of the twilight shift beginning of the midnight shift. I will be the one with the AMFA shirt on. Again all I ask is three reasons not to vote for the AMFA. I have witnessed and read several reasons to not vote for the industrial union TWU.

 

[410OhOne]

You need 3 reasons to continue your support of the TWU..name me one way you have supported them locally lately. How have you supported your local 530 leadership? I'd be more than happy to meet you anywhere...shall I look for an ID badge that reads 410ohone?

Funny you should mention that. Thanks to the support of the Industrial Internationals and AFL-CIO all of our badges actually read 4/10/01. Thus my screen name. I will be glad to meet you at the inspection desk at the end of the twilight shift beginning of the midnight shift. I will be the one with the AMFA shirt on. Again all I ask is three reasons not to vote for the AMFA. I have witnessed and read several reasons to not vote for the industrial union TWU.

 

[Rusty]

TonyB..will I go to management...you bet...got a problem with that? If so..come see me ... by the way Tony..I don't need to be provoked to go to management...you want the TWU to walk the line..so will you...problemo?

If you will Rat out your fellow worker, be it AMFA TWU IAM APA ALPA the letters do not matter. Your unionism has defiantly come into question!!! No, now it is out of the question!!! This is cowardly act and in most people’s books, is a question of ethics. Just how low will you go Steve???

On the other hand I will hope and pray you stay on the TWU's side of the fence Steve, because I just lost any respect I had for you.

From now on I will call you as mentioned above RatBoy Steve (RBSC for short). For AMFA's sake, never sign a card and never try to tell me about your ethics or unionist beliefs again!!!!!

 

[AMFAMAN]

Your unionism is what feeds my fire...the fact that the AMFA movement wants the TWU to walk the line so should AMFA. Ask me to sign a card on the clock and see where you'll be. I have no problem looking in a mirror...and I have no problem with the likes of these boys in here calling me names...but ya notice they do it from a keyboard and not to my face...wonder why?...also Buck..I do not believe you have the right nor power to question anyone's unionism...or do you in fact set the standard?

Ask me to sign a card on the clock and see where you'll be.

Steve you might want to familiarize yourself with the do's and don'ts of union organizing at AA. Also review the lawsuit settlement in Tulsa so you don't sound so ignorant next time. Don't worry Steve, management will find a spot for you when we go AMFA.

 

[Raptor]

Hey Ratboy Steve you just don't get it do you very soon you will be unemployed so who really gives a rats ass what you think, don't look for the TWU to bring you any food when you are starving or the company to cut you any slack either, they will drop you like a hot potato, but hey Ratboy the bus drivers are hiring but as soon as they find out you are a RAT BOY they probably will not hire you as NOBODY likes a RAT, Watch you back RAT BOY you know what they say what comes around goes around, I am glad I am not at your station for two reasons one you are there and two it won't be there long.

Cya later RAT BOY that really is a great name for you.
8110 Total Signed Election Authorization Cards by Station and Title Group (From system seniority list dated 02-12-2003):
Updated, Sunday September 28, 2003 at 02:07:36 AM. Our goal is to obtain 60% of the Craft and Class of
Mechanic and Related, and at this time, our estimate of that number, with 'elbow room' is approximately 10,000 cards.
Using that number, at this time, we are about 81.0% to our goal, or approximately 50.1% of our Craft and Class. Good job so far, and let's
REDOUBLE our efforts and GET THIS DONE