We lost five holidays also, we have half pay for the first three days of being out sick unless admitted to the hospital, lost plenty of vaction time.
All of this since 2002 and counting with concession getting worse in 2003 and 2004 and 2005.
Also gave concessions back in 1992, did you?
As you stated our pension was terminated 50% of our work outsourced, 46% of the mtc workforce laid-off.
And shall I bring up the closing of INT and GSO heavy mtc, SAN heavy and the engine shop and the loss of like 15 line stations.
All back shops closed, landing gear plating also in INT.
And we have had to pay for medical since 1992 and it has gone up substantially over the years.
We have taken more concessions at US than you have at AA and I feel bad as your going to suffer, but the Arrogance of some you is unreal, your not gonna come out with a raise and a better CBA than you had before they filed, you all think you suffered under the 2003 CBA, just wait till you see what comes out of 1113c negotiations.
And we were the lowest paid major after bankruptcy #2.
So cry me a river, your not the only airline and work group to give concessions and you wont be the last.
You are the one saying that we did not suffer.
Didn't you have 12 holidays? We only had 10, you didn't say what you get as far as 1.5 x, 2x or 2.5 x for the holidays.
If you go to the Hospital don't you get full pay starting with the first day? How much do you pay for coverage?
You did not answer as to how much sick time you get, how many holidays you get, how much vacation you get. We also lost over 4000 mechanics but wee did Most of it through attrition. Everyone has been offered recall and they have been hiring off the street in many locations for around a year. They have not been getting an overwhelming response for the openings, despite all those dumped by the industry after 9-11 there were not a whole lot of guys with heavy transport experience looking to get back in the industry, they moved on. NY1 only got around 20 of the 300 they laid off back.
We gave concessions in every contract since 1983. When did your mechanics lose R &D? The half hour lunch? We lost that in 1983. How long are your progressions to top pay?
Are you saying that you no longer accumulate any pension or was your USAIR plan terminated and now the company contributes to the IAM Pension plan?
Your overhaul was doomed because we had OSMs, very low paid mechanics working in the back shops, you also had the disadvantage of having too many different types of aircraft. You lacked the economies of scale to make doing in house cost effective. Of all the majors that went through BK USAir was probably the most likely to have gone C7.
Yes your mechanics are the bottom of the industry as far as topped out wages, however the average pay at USAIr is undoubtably higher than AA once we factor in OSMs ,and our OH guys do not make more than your mechanics, at least 3 out of 4 mechanics at AA earn less than their counterparts at USAIR,(even after two rounds of BK and farming out most of your OH). I believe that all your mechanics top out at The same rate don't hey? So AAs topped line mechanics on nights make around 50 cents more than your guys, that's $1040 a year, your guys make that up by getting an extra week of paid vacation, thats worth at least $1320. once we add in the Holidays your guys come out ahead.
Was USAir ever really a major carrier? We're they ever the largest?