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Forgive my ignorance,but did Parker meet with the pilots last time we tried this?
Forgive my ignorance,but did Parker meet with the pilots last time we tried this?
US can go Chapter 7 and stop the misery for everyone.
I really dont think there's going to be a merger with UA/US. The gains do not outweigh the losses.Oh yes. US Going to chapter 7 will end the misery for Charlotte Now all we need to do is get rid of Bank of America and Duke Energy then Charlotte will be set.
US bashing gets so old. Other people are trying to inform themselves of what's going on as opposed to whiney nonsense that doesn't add anything meaningful into what this merger could mean, etc. etc.
I've done reached my opinion on what I think personally would be the outcome for the eastcoast;
IAD - International/transconinental O&D hub. Reduced to a focus city.
DCA - Nearly the same as it is today
CLT - Same as it is today
PHL - Same as it is today
LGA - Gets the axe
Or less likely imho
IAD - Increased service adding a lot of flights
PHL - Downsized to focus city
DCA - Gets the axe
CLT - Kept up to par.
LGA - Gets the axe
What I have very little understanding of is the West Coast operation. I know Denver provides Northwestern Destinations but are them cities worth keeping service to if the Denver operation is bleeding red?
I think US/United just needs to axe PHX/DIA and keep them as focus cities. If they're bleeding red badly now, most likely they always will because of WN/F9. United doesn't need to be everything to everyone from Savannah Georgia to Billings Montana. Axe whats bleeding and has bleek prospects and turn a profit. But like I said. I have no idea how the west coast hubs preform, what value they add, etc. I'd love to here from a westie on what they think will happen with SAN/LAX/LAS/PHX/DIA
What I have very little understanding of is the West Coast operation. I know Denver provides Northwestern Destinations but are them cities worth keeping service to if the Denver operation is bleeding red?
Well that's one way to look at it. But that's not what I said. During bankruptcy we took it in the shorts because we had no choice. No one claimed that the pilots had any say. But now, as in 2001, we are in contract negotiations and have applied for mediation. That means it is only a matter of time before we are legally allowed to strike. Anything UAL management does at this point will have to take that into consideration. It's all about leverage. In 2001 we had the big hammer. During bankruptcy the pilots had nothing but strong language. Now we have some leverage again.Still continues to amaze me that the pilot group thinks that the airline world revolves around them, and them only.
Obviously you haven't heard. Folks, it's official:
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2. PIT reopened as second largest hub behind DEN, while ORD becomes focus city only; with most of its flying divided between DEN and PIT.
Wings, suds and spuds baby!!Whoo-hoo, that means the Sea Shell Lounge will have US Airways Night again!
Well that's one way to look at it. But that's not what I said. During bankruptcy we took it in the shorts because we had no choice. No one claimed that the pilots had any say. But now, as in 2001, we are in contract negotiations and have applied for mediation. That means it is only a matter of time before we are legally allowed to strike. Anything UAL management does at this point will have to take that into consideration. It's all about leverage. In 2001 we had the big hammer. During bankruptcy the pilots had nothing but strong language. Now we have some leverage again.
I agree that all the employee groups have some degree of persuasion. And at UAL, interestingly enough, they are in contract negotiations with ALL the labor groups at one time. (Go figure.) The reason Pilots have more leverage than other groups is due to the nature of our job. Even if pilots are replaced, it takes up to 6 months time to train them on equipment and have them certified under UAL's training program. (A US AIr, or Jet blue, or Spirit, or whoever pilot for example who is licensed to fly an A320 can't simply strap on a United jet and go fly. It doesn't work that way.) There is simply too much ramp up time. Many employee groups could be replaced in days or weeks. Not the pilots. Do you think any airline out there can survive a strike of 6 months while they get pilots trained? It has nothing to do with education, position, responsibility, or ego. It is what it is.
The one thing that US's flying out of PHL has done is to prove there is a solid and profitable international O&D market - something that should entice international carriers to enter - if US downsizes/leaves.