Update On The F/a Rally / Dougs Reaction

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AmWest shareholders approve proposed merger

Dawn Gilbertson
The Arizona Republic
Sept. 13, 2005 01:30 PM

America West Airlines shareholders overwhelmingly approved the company's merger with US Airways this morning, leaving just one hurdle to clear before the airlines combine operations.

The company said 95.5 percent of the total voting shares were in favor of the merger. Approval was widely expected because no shareholders had publicly voiced any concerns since the deal was announced in May.

America West CEO Doug Parker, speaking at a special shareholders meeting in Tempe, called it a great day for America West.




"It's a ringing endorsement for what we believe is a business plan that makes an extreme amount of sense," he said.

The airlines say their goal is to build the best airline in the United States, a nationwide low-fare carrier with full service. It hopes to better compete with the likes of Southwest by offering an extensive route map and more amenities such as assigned seating and airport clubs. The airline will be called US Airways and be based in Tempeand headed by Parker.

Even though the merger got a resounding yes and is expected to be approved by US Airways' bankruptcy case judge by the end of the week, the meeting was anything but a love fest for the pending deal.

America West flight attendants, mechanics, pilots and other employees picketed outside the headquarters before and during the meeting.

The Association of Flight Attendants-CWA organized the rally to protest what it says are the company's stalling tactics in contract negotiations. They filed for mediation on Monday. Organizers said the company's latest offer for America West flight attendants was for a five-year wage freeze, a deal they find unacceptable because they haven't had a raise since 2002.

Employees loudly chanted "Shame on Doug" repeatedly and carried signs saying "Negotiate in Good Faith," "Not one Red Cent" and "Roll the Dice With AWA's Casino."

Inside the shareholder meeting, America West's last as America West, various union representatives pressed Parker on what he would do to protect their jobs.

America West employees are deeply concerned about their jobs because US Airways workers have much more seniority because that airline has been around a few decades longer.

"That's the scary part," said first-year flight attendant Debra Prophet. "I can only imagine what the senior flight attendants are feeling."

The single mother said she makes about $1,000 a month and hasn't been able to use her free flight benefits this year because she can't afford to do anything once she gets there.

The rally and pointed questions at the meeting are the most public demonstration yet of the frustration among America West workers and is a preview of the labor challenges ahead as the merger closes in two weeks.

Bernadette McCulloch, representing the Teamsters union, said America West and US Airways executives have incentive and severance plans in place related to the merger and asked Parker where the packages are for front-line employees. The Teamsters represents America West mechanics, who also are in contract negotiations, and its customer service representatives.

"You guys got your piece; we want ours," she said.


WHAT OCCURRED IN TEMPE

The MEC Communication Chair for US Airways was there and he walked the picket line with America West Flight Attendants. He told several F/As that there really weren't that many SEN FA's at US... like 6 over 40 yr.. maybe 10-15 with 30, beyond that he didn't speculate. He did say that some SEN that had turned in their paperwork for early out and second thoughts and were recinding them.

Some fa's were permitted inside the meeting with the stockholders & Mr.Parker..they said, they could hear us outside which is great for our voice. Doug Parker was a bit concerned, but was relieved after the meeting.

There were also a few Southwest Flight Attendants that joined us. Media was there and hundreds of participants. Voices loud and clear. Yellow was everywhere. Doug got frustrated while talking due to the UNION CHANTS.
 
Holding a rally outside the sharehholders meeting and disrupting it WHILE IN PROGRESS (if true) is simply not good for anyone in the company. These matters should be worked out in a professional manner. The "It's All About ME ME ME" attitude and the heck with everyone else mentality stinks. Doug and team are reasonable and professional people who do respect the working class, and have proven it time and again. I'm not so sure I can attribute the same qualities to the folks attempting to disrupt the shareholders meeting. :down:
 
Eric, usually you are so level-headed and sensible....
Is someone else posting under your screen name?

The shareholders meeting was the PERFECT opportunity for FAs to let Doug and cronies know their 'screw you' attitude is not appreciated.
 
desertgal said:
Eric, usually you are so level-headed and sensible....
Is someone else posting under your screen name?

The shareholders meeting was the PERFECT opportunity for FAs to let Doug and cronies know their 'screw you' attitude is not appreciated.
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I respect your opinion about my comments. The ONLY thing I can see was accomplished was not constructive, at least in my mind. If you wan't to call embarrassing someone to gain leverage constructive then we have differing opinions. Negotiations that stoop to embarrassing the other side is just plain stupid. The "screw you" attitude is not Doug's attitude. If anyone has a "screw you" attitude it was the protestors. The unions and the New US Airways management will have to find a way to work together or NO ONE will have a job! Embarrassing someone IS NOT CONSTRUCTIVE NEGOTIATION! I might change my opinion if someone can show me where Doug has embarrassed a union with similiar actions in public.
 
According to the NC and the MEC, Doug has said he is no longer interested in negotiating with us. So, what do you expect us to do? Wait for the U contract to become amenable?

NOT!
 
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This is the type of deal makers you guys are going to be introduced to. By allowing any of the USAirways team to stay, they should start multiplying once they get to Tempe.

Feel really bad for all and can only hope that you aren't beat as bad as the US employees have been. In fact, take a look at our board. The execs are giving themselves another bonus for a job not done.
 
EricLv2Fish said:
Embarrassing someone IS NOT CONSTRUCTIVE NEGOTIATION! I might change my opinion if someone can show me where Doug has embarrassed a union with similiar actions in public.
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Was Doug embarrased?
He should be.
He should be ashamed.
 
desertgal said:
Was Doug embarrased?
He should be.
He should be ashamed.
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Why should he be embarrased or ashamed? He is doing what he thinks he needs to do. Obviously many disagree with his attitude and I don't say I blame them. However, you don't see Doug out bad mouthing the union to the public.
I wonder what the union's reaction would be if he did?
 
hp_fa said:
According to the NC and the MEC, Doug has said he is no longer interested in negotiating with us. So, what do you expect us to do? Wait for the U contract to become amenable?

NOT!
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I dont' believe for a second Doug said he is no longer interested in negotiating.
 
Let sleeping dogs lie......you're complaining about a pay raise when we the US side is dealing with 3 Rounds of paycuts! I wouldn't touch that one with a ten foot pole! :shock:
 
airlinedivalish said:
There were also a few Southwest Flight Attendants that joined us. Media was there and hundreds of participants. Voices loud and clear. Yellow was everywhere. Doug got frustrated while talking due to the UNION CHANTS.
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This is just about the most unprofessional, disgusting, disrespectful thing that the union has done lately. One does not walk in and start ranting in the middle of the meeting. I think the employees of HP should go outside the AFA and picket them and chant all day so they can't do business in a professional manner.

A stockholder meeting is not the stage to have professional negotiations. Get with the times and realize that there is no way in the world that contract negotiations can be completed prior to the total integration of the new airline. I as a HP employee for once is embarrassed by the actions of fellow employees during this merger. Some of you are starting to sound like the grumpy US employees we laugh at on here.

Then again this coming from a union whose President was investigated, found guilty on some of those charges by the National MEC and the resigns. The unions always tell us that the leadership is a example of the very top. Well for once the union should look itself in the mirror, because the unprofessional actions at the stockholders meeting are a direct reflection of the unions leadership, which of course was proven to be managed extremely poorly.
 
osunut,

People living in glass houses ........ Sometimes the posts from US people come across harsh but the US people have learned the term "BOHICA" very well. It is probably a term you might start to see here at HP ...... "Bend Over Here It Comes Again" Something or somebody has got to give and the BOD, CEO and crew are not going to be the ones. I am sorry to break this to you but time will tell, unfortunately the US people already know this. Wish it could be different. With NW and DL jumping in the BK stew, it is only going to get worse. Remember you were warned.
 
hp_fa said:
According to the NC and the MEC, Doug has said he is no longer interested in negotiating with us. So, what do you expect us to do? Wait for the U contract to become amenable?

NOT!
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You believe eveything you read and hear in the news also. If you don't hear it from the horses' mouth take it with a grain of salt
 
desertgal said:
Was Doug embarrased?
He should be.
He should be ashamed.
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Some still don't get it. Attempting to interrupt a CEO at a shareholders meeting from outside the building by chanting is not a professional way to handle the business of negotiating a contract. It's very child like. Children who get their way by being a nuisance are usually classified as spoiled children aren't they? Then why should grown-ups be classified any different? I guess the means to the end isn't important to some as long as they get what they want. Though he may have shown some frustration which is questionable in and of itself, he will handled what happened with class and dignity. Negotiating in good faith with someone with class and dignity will be much more likely to suceed than what was witnessed at the sharelholders meeting. AWA will only agree to what AWA thinks will be a viable contract that allows all employees to stay employees with a JOB. A contract out of bounds to that thinking could lead to the demise of the entire company and all company jobs. Your jobs are not the only ones that have to be considered. It's like raising a family of 10 kids or so....what you give to one the other 9 will expect the same and if you've ever raised a family you know you can go broke very quickly if your not careful what you give. I don't want to oversimplify a very complex subject, but the principle holds. Attention getting and headline grabbing doesn't neccessarily mean that organized labor is doing a service to it's members. What goes on behind the scenes or behind closed doors often accomplishes more than making racket and drawing attention, but unfortunately making racket and drawing attention is used when true negotiating ability is lacking. I'm not Anti-Organized labor (some may disagree after my posts on this thread), but for Pete's Sake display some professionalism and show some consideration for the organization as a whole. Since 911 how much money has AWA earned in net profit? We are doing better than most and thier is a reason why. Get what you can bargain for, but don't expect to get a deal that will do harm to our collective future. In today's airline environment there isn't a whole lot to leverage, unless of course a group of folks are willing to drag everyone down with them. Everybody loses then. <_<